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    AoC TG Guild: Philosophy and Practice

    This thread is to start a discussion about what the guidelines of a TG Conan guild, considering the game's adult status, and the adult nature of Howard's novels.

    From the Primer:
    1) Create an environment conducive for mature gamers to enjoy the games they play without the everyday interference from the less-than-mature gamers.

    2) Create an environment where there was mutual respect for your fellow gamers and where all members would be working together to advance the enjoyment of their hobby.

    3) Support game play in a near-simulation environment. Where the focus of play would not be solely on doing what it takes to win, but doing so utilizing real-world combat strategy and tactics rather than leveraging exploits provided to players by the design of the game engine, regardless of the level of advantage, if any, it gives over the opposing team.
    My first thought is removing our normal profanity rules, but this would involve restricting the TS channel from anyone who might wander in, and possibly an age limit for the guild (which shouldn't be hard, since the game is rated M).

    Outside people who join the guild and then join TG would need to be cautioned to keep the adult behavior permissible in the game out of the rest of the TG forums and servers.

    Anyone else have thoughts?

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    Re: AoC TG Guild: Philosophy and Practice

    I do not agree with age limit's being implemented as a rule, but I do like the how this game will be aimed more at the mature gamer.



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    Re: AoC TG Guild: Philosophy and Practice

    I agree with the age limit many a time ive seen 13 year old people ruin guilds cause they act well childish during something important and then people get annoyed and leave..

    I think min age should be 18 though suits the game

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    Re: AoC TG Guild: Philosophy and Practice

    Game is 17+ in the US, so it would make sense that the age limit for the guild was 17?

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    Re: AoC TG Guild: Philosophy and Practice

    If I am not mistaken the maturity rating limits the age of the person allowed to purchase the game not play it(parents can buy it for their kids), or am I wrong?
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    Re: AoC TG Guild: Philosophy and Practice

    Quote Originally Posted by Namebot View Post
    If I am not mistaken the maturity rating limits the age of the person allowed to purchase the game not play it(parents can buy it for their kids), or am I wrong?
    Thats the loophole

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    Re: AoC TG Guild: Philosophy and Practice

    Quote Originally Posted by AdeptAbyss View Post
    I agree with the age limit many a time ive seen 13 year old people ruin guilds cause they act well childish during something important and then people get annoyed and leave..

    I think min age should be 18 though suits the game
    In all honesty, I've seen more people 18+ cause problems than those below. Younger players tend to be loud and obnoxious, and just leave if they don't get their way right now. Older players start drama, which eventually tears gaping holes in guilds and personal relationships.

    There are far more players in MMO's that are out of their teens than in. While the concept of an age restriction is intriguing, I think we'd be better off simply going by maturity level and teamwork like we always have at TG. Let the guild leaders judge that.

    The guild should operate in general just like the rest of TG does; teamwork, respect, communication, tactics and observance of set rules. While several of these things are self-evident no matter what we're doing or playing, some of them will have to wait to be defined until we're in the thick of the game. Things like raid/pvp attendance requirements, loot rules and others that require experience with the game itself probably can't be defined at this moment. I'm sure the guild leaders will put things together with input from the community when the time comes, though.

    As to the other thing that was mentioned earlier, I agree with lifting the profanity rules within this game- even if it means locking down a teamspeak channel. You'll likely catch me swearing whether the rule is there or not; pretty much the only reason I don't do it in games like CoD4 is to keep the comms clear. :P Not as necessary in an MMO.

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    Re: AoC TG Guild: Philosophy and Practice

    Having run a guild in WoW which allows all ages in, I'd agree with no age limit. Let the maturity rule do its job.

    As far as other rules go, I usually see guilds try to protect their good name. While racial/sexual/relious slurs are against the rules, other behavior can mar the TG reputation. Perhaps a rule which requires good representation of TG ideals at all times, to include not being a constant ass in guild/public chat, undertaking undue harrasment in-game (eg: excessive spawncamping), or whatever else we deem to be not nice?

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    Re: AoC TG Guild: Philosophy and Practice

    Quote Originally Posted by Augustus Gloop View Post
    This thread is to start a discussion about what the guidelines of a TG Conan guild, considering the game's adult status, and the adult nature of Howard's novels.

    From the Primer:


    My first thought is removing our normal profanity rules,

    Anyone else have thoughts?
    lets not .

    I've enjoyed not hearing people say F this and F that, kinda nice, plus in north america, and most of us are here , we hear plenty of that on TV and every single movie (its ok in context and then only specific moments)

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    Re: AoC TG Guild: Philosophy and Practice

    Quote Originally Posted by Augustus Gloop View Post
    My first thought is removing our normal profanity rules
    Damonte would suggest not removing the profanity rules. Maturity does not equate to crude langauge. In fact, Damonte personally feels quite the opposite.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grieg View Post
    As far as other rules go, I usually see guilds try to protect their good name. While racial/sexual/relious slurs are against the rules, other behavior can mar the TG reputation. Perhaps a rule which requires good representation of TG ideals at all times, to include not being a constant ass in guild/public chat, undertaking undue harrasment in-game (eg: excessive spawncamping), or whatever else we deem to be not nice?
    We are Tactical Gamer. The last time Damonte checked, the TG Primer still applies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbinator View Post
    lets not .

    I've enjoyed not hearing people say F this and F that, kinda nice, plus in north america, and most of us are here , we hear plenty of that on TV and every single movie (its ok in context and then only specific moments)
    Ditto.
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    Re: AoC TG Guild: Philosophy and Practice

    Quote Originally Posted by Damonte View Post
    Damonte would suggest not removing the profanity rules. Maturity does not equate to crude langauge. In fact, Damonte personally feels quite the opposite.
    Personally, I don't think crude language equates to immaturity. Now, I don't think that every other word out of someone's mouth should be the F-bomb or anything, but I don't want to be chastised if I say "s***" or "wtf" every so often when I get frustrated or something bad happens.

    Honestly, I find it both amusing and worrisome that we'll be playing a game where heads will be separated from bodies in gouts of blood while bare nipples jiggle on the sidelines, yet people are concerned about a bit of profanity.

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    Re: AoC TG Guild: Philosophy and Practice

    TG also has the flexibility to adapt to new game types. Since Conan is rated M, a discussion of what maturity means to us is relevant. Obviously any adaptation of the primer would be approved by Apophis and asch before being implemented, and wouldn't change how we approach Tactical Gamer in general, nor our attitudes to those in game in AoC.

    Profanity for it's own sake is the child trying out what's permissible. Profanity used properly can be an added flavor to the game.

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    Re: AoC TG Guild: Philosophy and Practice

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokingTarpan View Post
    Personally, I don't think crude language equates to immaturity. Now, I don't think that every other word out of someone's mouth should be the F-bomb or anything, but I don't want to be chastised if I say "s***" or "wtf" every so often when I get frustrated or something bad happens.
    Damonte does not have a problem with this. He only has issue with people who spew vulgarity out of their speak-holes as a matter of normal speech.
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    Re: AoC TG Guild: Philosophy and Practice

    Just incase there is any swearing in game everyone should disable all in-game audio and remove all chat boxes after they install the game. Any dialog between NPCs must also be quickly skipped also.

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    But then I would miss all the insinuations of carnal rewards through voice inflection!

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