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  1. 05-13-2008 05:04 PM #1
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    Tactical Gamer Age Of Conan Guild will be supporting two servers: PVP & PVE!

    It's time for a decision to be made. The TG AOC Guild will be running two server types: PVP & PVE. Given the results from the poll and in reading the various posts on the subject we have enough players to support both server types. Additionally, we may have players who discover the game from outside the guild (or inside TG) and wish to join us. I would like to cover both play types and this is not intended to split the guild into factions. We in fact may find that one server type works over the other so we can modify in the coming months as we find out more about the game.

    This is a server type in progress, so to speak. I plan on playing both servers. One game day (night) I might be interested in PVP the other PVE. Given the responses, we may have other players feel the same way. As soon as we know the server names we will pick a server for the varying play types.

    If someone can please (UnDead?) change the TS channel to reflect the two server types: Channel 1 PVP, Channel 2 PVE, that would be helpful.
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  2. 05-13-2008 07:12 PM #2
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    Re: Tactical Gamer Age Of Conan Guild will be supporting two servers: PVP & PVE!

    "This is Ghambit, and I support this message"

    I think this is a prudent choice until Funcom sorts out how they're gonna run the PvP server (especially death-penalty wise). Only problem now is (and I'm sure I'm not alone), I still cant decide which to play.

    Was kinda hoping TG would decide for me.
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    Re: Tactical Gamer Age Of Conan Guild will be supporting two servers: PVP & PVE!

    I think this is a bad idea.... *crosses-fingers*
    Im with you Ghambit - so now, where do i go?
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    Re: Tactical Gamer Age Of Conan Guild will be supporting two servers: PVP & PVE!

    The other thing is, we'll now need 2 Guild Leaders and probably 2 sub-forums. Who will now lead which server?
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  5. 05-13-2008 10:12 PM #5
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    Re: Tactical Gamer Age Of Conan Guild will be supporting two servers: PVP & PVE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gambit7 View Post
    The other thing is, we'll now need 2 Guild Leaders and probably 2 sub-forums. Who will now lead which server?
    Good idea(s) but let's wait a week or two after release and see what direction we want to take after we've all had a chance to play and see what fits everyone's play style.
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    Re: Tactical Gamer Age Of Conan Guild will be supporting two servers: PVP & PVE!

    Great news... Can we name the PvP server guild something other than 'Tactical Gamer'; perhaps one of the other suggestions posted?
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  7. 05-13-2008 11:48 PM #7
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    Re: Tactical Gamer Age Of Conan Guild will be supporting two servers: PVP & PVE!

    Quote Originally Posted by fldash View Post
    Great news... Can we name the PvP server guild something other than 'Tactical Gamer'; perhaps one of the other suggestions posted?
    Most counter productive post ever.


    I say the name thing it settled...its really not a huge deal either. I like the idea of trying both out. Personally, I'm going to start playing PvP first. If PvP turns out to be broken, it's nice to know I'll have somewhere to turn to.
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  8. 05-13-2008 11:58 PM #8
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    Re: Tactical Gamer Age Of Conan Guild will be supporting two servers: PVP & PVE!

    I like the idea as an experiment to see where we want to place the guild, not as a final solution to the PVP vs PVE question.



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  9. 05-14-2008 09:38 AM #9
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    Re: Tactical Gamer Age Of Conan Guild will be supporting two servers: PVP & PVE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guardianx11x View Post
    Most counter productive post ever.


    I say the name thing it settled...its really not a huge deal either. I like the idea of trying both out. Personally, I'm going to start playing PvP first. If PvP turns out to be broken, it's nice to know I'll have somewhere to turn to.
    Would you care to enlighten me about what's 'counter-productive' about it? This is not the first time I've been 'called out' on these forums for simply voicing my opinions and thoughts. I was the one that originally suggested TG split into PvE and PvP servers to make everyone happy.

    Everyone acts like the only people in the guild will be current TG members; it'd be devastating to our numbers if we split. That can't be further from the truth. Both PvE/PvP guilds will be gaining many members through playing the game, these new members will become new members of TG. It's the same cycle with everyone game that TG supports and I'm quite sure it's the way Apophis envisioned it.

    TG is becoming a sad state of affairs and is one reason I'm no longer a supporting member.
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  10. 05-14-2008 09:39 AM #10
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    Re: Tactical Gamer Age Of Conan Guild will be supporting two servers: PVP & PVE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Grieg View Post
    I like the idea as an experiment to see where we want to place the guild, not as a final solution to the PVP vs PVE question.
    Agreed. When it comes down to it, we've had 21 people respond in the PvP vs. PvE server poll. Out of those, 13 said PvP, 5 PvE, and 3 will roll either way (I'd say likely PvP, since more people are going in that direction). It seems to defeat the purpose of playing with TG if we split things up.

    We seem to have a few die-hard either way. Personally, I still think that the PvE server will offer all that we need to both player types. To paraphrase what Humvee said over in the server poll thread, PvP players can survive well enough on PvE servers, but PvE players will not be very happy on a PvP server. I also honestly wouldn't be surprised if some of the PvP players get frustrated along the way on a PvP server; always having to group, needing to stick to schedules just to level up, etc.

    We will more likely than not pick up new players as we go along, so I guess that could work to fill out things on two different servers. One important thing to keep in mind though: do we even know the requirements for forming a guild? By splitting TG, we possibly face the problem of not being able to form a guild on the server that gets fewer TG people.

    Also, how will the specific server(s) we play on get picked? There's going to be multiples of each type, and we'll want to make sure we don't have 2 people on one, 5 on another, etc.

    Does anyone know how the WoW guild handled this sort of thing (server type choice) here at TG? I think I'll go ask.

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  11. 05-14-2008 09:42 AM #11
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    Re: Tactical Gamer Age Of Conan Guild will be supporting two servers: PVP & PVE!

    There are no requirements to form a guild. You only need to be level 20. You don't even have to have a party together. There could be many 1 man guilds running around...
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  12. 05-14-2008 10:15 AM #12
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    Re: Tactical Gamer Age Of Conan Guild will be supporting two servers: PVP & PVE!

    Quote Originally Posted by fldash View Post
    There are no requirements to form a guild. You only need to be level 20. You don't even have to have a party together. There could be many 1 man guilds running around...
    Are you saying this from experience? The FAQ says there will be requirements, and only gives level 20 as one example, not the sole requirement:

    9.1 Will players be able to form guilds in Age of Conan?

    Yes, there is an extensive guild system in the game. There will be certain requirements for founding a guild. For example, creating a guild is free, but you will need to be at least level 20 to do so.
    If anyone can make a guild solo, I'd label the developers as fundamentally idiotic.

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  13. 05-14-2008 11:02 AM #13
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    Re: Tactical Gamer Age Of Conan Guild will be supporting two servers: PVP & PVE!

    Why can't you run a one man guild? What is so bad about that?
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    Re: Tactical Gamer Age Of Conan Guild will be supporting two servers: PVP & PVE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoopy View Post
    Why can't you run a one man guild? What is so bad about that?
    Consider the resources involved, especially with AoC. Guilds can build their own cities, and each of these cities requires their own instance on a server somewhere. More guild cities = more strain on the server hardware and network equipment. Imagine 500 one-man guilds, each of those with their own cities; that's 500 extra server instances to deal with. Compare that to the (likely) average of guilds with 50-100 members, needing only 5-10 server instances.

    Now cities are expensive, and I'm sure they have their own requirements that will make it hard for 1-person guilds to make a city. However, you should never underestimate the determination some of these solo players have. Even if they can't make cities, there's still other resources involved in guild tracking, such as member and pvp stats, that you don't want servers spending power on frivolously.

    It just seems a very messy and ill-fated thing to do.

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  15. 05-14-2008 11:59 AM #15
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    Re: Tactical Gamer Age Of Conan Guild will be supporting two servers: PVP & PVE!

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokingTarpan View Post
    Also, how will the specific server(s) we play on get picked? There's going to be multiples of each type, and we'll want to make sure we don't have 2 people on one, 5 on another, etc.
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    What i look for when picking a server is a name that is easy to pronounce. Secondly and more importantly i always join the less populated one. Hopefully they'll have something to tell us the pop level.
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