Originally Posted by Magnum50

As of now, unless the staff or the group of admins decided differently... no one will be booted when open to the public unless cheating or abusive toward others.

Like I said before, I don't want to make this harder then it really is... it's just a computer game... I don't want a bunch of rules when open to the public...just good fun teamwork and team play... we usually side up with whoever happens to be on our side anyway and co-op like that, we can't force others to teamwork when its an open server and there not on teamspeak...

but it would be a different matter on "members only" nights...so each admin would decided how disciplined to the rules they want to be...all within the basic agreement.

OK, so the way I'm reading this is that when the server is open. Only blatantly nasty things like cheating or abusive behavior will be checked. That's good.

As you say, it shouldn't be harder than it really is, and I tend to wish that were the case, ideally. But the more I think about what you say about how we shouldn't get bogged down in rules and just have good fun teamwork and team play when the server is open brings up a big red flashing warning light. In order for us to have teamwork and team play we have to hold players to at least some standards, don't we? Otherwise it's just a lucky night if all the players just happen to be sticking together, working in units, communicating intentions and threats, playing the objective, etc. And in order for us to uphold players to standards of team play, don't we gotta have rules? (I'm telling you, it just ain't a pretty picture).

The last thing you mentioned that I thought about was about on member nights, it's up to the admins to decide how disciplined they want their players to be. More warning lights going off. Admin consistency if very important. If some admin are totally laid back and don't give a crap about the rules, and some are sticklers, or some enforce A B and C rules but not X Y Z, and some enforce X Y Z and not A B C, then we're gonna see segregation in which players like which admins and cliques forming and complaints flying... another potential mess waiting to happen.

Don't get me wrong, I know I come off as some sorta rule monger paper pushing college boy, but these things happen and sometimes it's more a pain in the ass to deal with after rather than before.

But I will say this. I enjoy the game, I love the game, but what I love more than anything is TACTICAL gaming. Some of you play a couple nights a week, I play 5-6 nights a week. If you only play the nights that it's passworded, great for you, you get your tactical gaming fix and who gives a hoot about the other nights. I would like to, eventually, be able to get on a tactical gamer AA server, almost any night of the week, and get into a game (meaning not an empty barren ghost town server), where it's mostly being played by tactically aware players (be it pubbers or TGers) with a few understandable exeptions of people new to the server, and with admins available to take care of elements that can kill the server. I can understand not having players at 3am or in middle of the day, but at prime time it can be dissapointing sitting in an empty TS server for hours. I know AA and TG are kind of new but I don't want to hear anything about people not being interested in playing AA, tough crap Sloppy. There are 1000's of players out there playing on AA servers right now, many tactically minded, what's our plan to capture a few of those?

Is this asking too much or is this the idea behind the tactical gamer community?