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Discussion: America's Army / America's Army - General Discussion - Poll about an admins resposiblilty... - Last night we didn't have enough AA players to lock the server due to some
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11-07-2005, 08:24 AM #1
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Poll about an admins resposiblilty...
Last night we didn't have enough AA players to lock the server due to some BF2 tourney... so it was left open for the public and we had some fun anyway with about 6 to 8 members...
During the evening a honor 90+ named "yellow pee" played on our server... this kid was DYNOMITE... as soon as the game started he would run off on his own full speed, lobe some grenades, do some shooting and most of the time he would have 4 to 6 enemy kills within the first 2 minutes, I watched him because he performed some amazing lightning kills on me and so I questioned... but saw no cheating, he died rarely, but did once in a while... he would fire and miss on occasion... If he was on your team it was great for points, but his excellent playing skills pretty much ruined the gameplay for most, on both sides...
My question... as a player/admin... when a non-TG member is playing that well but ruining the gameplay and fun for members... should an admin politely kick him out with the explaination... or let him continue playing?Magnum
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11-07-2005, 08:59 AM #2
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Re: Poll about an admins resposiblilty...
If he's not playing with the team, working to accomplish objectives, then away he goes. If he is, then he stays, regardless of skill.
Skill doesn't matter. Teamplay matters. Objectives matter. Communication matters.
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11-07-2005, 09:28 AM #3
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Re: Poll about an admins resposiblilty...
well he definitely wasn't a team player, lol...
He plays AA like it's a FPS, instead of a STS... but he is damn good, lol...Magnum
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11-07-2005, 10:10 AM #4
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Re: Poll about an admins resposiblilty...
THAT'S why you kick. 10 Honor or 1000: the key to a good game at TacticalGamer is communication and teamwork. Kicking for a difference in skill alone will only end up branding our server in the public eye.
Originally Posted by Magnum50
On a similar note, we need to pimp TeamSpeak like there's no tomorrow while we're on the server.Last edited by Pokerface; 11-07-2005 at 10:11 AM. Reason: added bolding. :)
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11-07-2005, 10:37 AM #5
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Re: Poll about an admins resposiblilty...
thing is, our TS is only for SM's... this was an "open" game... so, yes... teamwork was difficult, unless on teamspeak... but I get your point.
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11-07-2005, 10:51 AM #6
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Re: Poll about an admins resposiblilty...
I voted yes, but with the provision that only if they are not playing as a team. If they are skilled, and supporting the other team members, then they stay. If not, they go.
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11-07-2005, 10:54 AM #7
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Re: Poll about an admins resposiblilty...
Actually, TS is *not* reserved for SM's only. You have to join the forums, which makes you a TG community member, and thereby grants rights to the TG TS. Originally Posted by Magnum50
Instead of kicking for solo play outright, my suggestion is to encourage a player to visit the TG site, register, and get on TS with us. If they refuse, and insist on playing as a Rambo, then they are in violation of TG server rules and subject to removal.
But on to the point of kicking for being too skilled... it's no different than kicking for being too unskilled. To implement a rule like this goes against TG principles.
Teamwork is the key.
No teamwork... no play.
Period.
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11-07-2005, 11:00 AM #8
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Re: Poll about an admins resposiblilty...
well i won't make this a broken record but yeah, what everyone else said lol :P
Everyone should have access to the TS server who's on these forums.
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11-07-2005, 11:03 AM #9
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Re: Poll about an admins resposiblilty...
i voted yes just for the simple fact that if they are not playing with team work the boot them but if they are then its great for them
that sounds like a good idea trooper.
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11-07-2005, 11:08 AM #10
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Re: Poll about an admins resposiblilty...
I agree with Mateo, Mirfee and Vulcan, Poker. If he is not playing as a team with us or another squad, we should encourage him to join up. If not willing then politely kick. We should have the same type play on AA that we have on our other servers.
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11-07-2005, 11:16 AM #11
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Re: Poll about an admins resposiblilty...
Never kick because of skill.. Kick because of lack of teamwork.
Poker is nailing it on the head again...
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11-07-2005, 11:44 AM #12
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Re: Poll about an admins resposiblilty...
It doesn't grant the rights, but you need to be logged into the forums to see the Announcements section with the TeamSpeak info. Originally Posted by Mirfee
90% of the teamwork aspect is communication, and if we want public players to be TG players, TS is a virtual necessity.
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11-07-2005, 11:50 AM #13
Re: Poll about an admins resposiblilty...
I wouldn't endorse kicking people for being too good. But I would endorse kicking people for refusal to work with their team and being a lone-wolf.
Diplomacy is the art of saying "good doggie" while looking for a bigger stick.
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11-07-2005, 11:53 AM #14
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Re: Poll about an admins resposiblilty...
I voted kick them.
NOT because they are 'too skilled', but because most 'skilled' players have a tendency to run off on their own as cited in this case. They do better Wolverine, racking up points, than moving with the unit and working together.
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11-07-2005, 11:56 AM #15
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Re: Poll about an admins resposiblilty...
Whoa, if we're going to start kicking for not working as a team, I'd have to say yellow pee was definately not the only pubber that should have been under scrutiny last night. Maybe the easiest target because he was so visible but there are always, always, wanderers and rambos when there is no password and it fills up. Haven't seen them get any attention.
This opens up a can of worms about letting pubbers 1) know or have access to rules 2) getting warnings 3) getting kicked or banned.
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