Should FF=OFF also = NON RANKED?

TOOmuchMcLovin · 06-12-2008, 05:26 PM

Honestly after playing alot of titan, I've come to the conclusion that FF being off is completely bogus. But fair enough many people like it, but I think they should either A: Half the XP from those games, or B: Make them non-ranked completely.

Just voicing an oppinion

**DrBeat** · 06-12-2008, 05:51 PM

Personally, I think FF should be on because it makes a consequence for your actions. So you can't just run around crazy with grenades and stuff. I don't think they should be non-ranked but I do think FF makes it more fair for ranking as you can lose points.

**draeh** · 06-12-2008, 05:51 PM

I think so, but the community at large when never accept it. Therefore, as a business practice, a publisher/designer like EA/DICE would never make such a bold step in that direction.

**Anospa** · 06-12-2008, 05:51 PM

Yeah, its a completely different, and easier game. As Draeh said though, it caters to the majority.

**Modkaman** · 06-12-2008, 06:29 PM

The entire reason I'm a member of TG is because of FF OFF servers. I originally started playing this game with two other friends and they were always playing on this server where FF was OFF. Every now and then I would be able to play with them and I remember specifically this guy would come down to the Camp Gibi UCB and throw down some RDX then start bunny hopping all over the place.

After I started playing on the TG servers I realized just how pathetic the server was. I tried getting them to come over but after they played one time on a TG server and got mad owned even without the Jihad Jeeps, Bunny Hoppers, or Base Rapers they quit playing the game.

**Eroak** · 06-12-2008, 06:33 PM

You'll always have a split opinion for this topic. But I think I can safely say that all of us have no issue with FF=ON. But it is neat to watch people fly 100+ meters in to air and kill gunships with paracutes

Restrict · 06-12-2008, 06:41 PM

They should make gunships out of parachutes. And those lamp poles that render at 10 meters on Tampa...

As long as FF=ON servers aren't empty, they can RDX spam all they want and get to Brigadier General before me. I mean, it's their right to play the game, isn't it? And as long as nobody is making me play on FF=OFF servers I'm perfectly fine with it.

**MDFubar** · 06-12-2008, 06:45 PM

I personally think that FF off takes away from the intent of the game to provide a simulation of combat that we can all experience and "enjoy". I have never agreed with it and probably never will.

Holy · 06-12-2008, 06:49 PM

I like both FF=On and FF=Off servers because the On ones give BF2142 a challenge into tactical game play and the Off ones test your individuality as a player.

**draeh** · 06-12-2008, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holy

I like both FF=On and FF=Off servers because the On ones give BF2142 a challenge into tactical game play and the Off ones test your individuality as a player.

I think FF=On tests your abilities even farther... The ability to not TK a teammate that steps in front of your shot. The ability to deploy explosives safely (also not TKing a teammate). The ability to use an APC mortar without wiping out friendlies on a flag.

Catch my drift?

Kaboodles · 06-12-2008, 08:07 PM

You know what's incredibly stupid about FF=Off in this game? It also disables self-damage.

Seriously, FF=Off would be much more viable with self-damage on. Solves the whole RDX bunny-hopper problem quite nicely.

TOOmuchMcLovin · 06-12-2008, 08:11 PM

SELF damage not happening was my major complaint actually :P good call

**Uranium - 235** · 06-12-2008, 11:09 PM

How would I propel myself over buildings in daring aerial assaults then?

I can see FF being forced on in some games, but I should hope that game would actually ship with decent admin tools, like those mod ones for HL2. Frankly, any server that isn't able to support a decent admin team has no business being up in the first place.

**machowner** · 06-13-2008, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaboodles

You know what's incredibly stupid about FF=Off in this game? It also disables self-damage.

Seriously, FF=Off would be much more viable with self-damage on. Solves the whole RDX bunny-hopper problem quite nicely.

Yea, that wouldn't be so bad. A real oversight, or bad intention with that one.

**big-eye101** · 06-13-2008, 04:55 AM

One more point I like to throw in here is:

With FF on it is more realistic!

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Eroak Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In a AC-130 shooting 105's at you. Age: 28 Posts: 3,139	Re: Should FF=OFF also = NON RANKED? You'll always have a split opinion for this topic. But I think I can safely say that all of us have no issue with FF=ON. But it is neat to watch people fly 100+ meters in to air and kill gunships with paracutes __________________ Do you know your roots? R.I.P. Lost Fires - June 16, 2001 - June 18, 2008 An EverQuest guild - We miss you Faylon

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Restrict Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4	Re: Should FF=OFF also = NON RANKED? They should make gunships out of parachutes. And those lamp poles that render at 10 meters on Tampa... As long as FF=ON servers aren't empty, they can RDX spam all they want and get to Brigadier General before me. I mean, it's their right to play the game, isn't it? And as long as nobody is making me play on FF=OFF servers I'm perfectly fine with it.

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Holy Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 80	Re: Should FF=OFF also = NON RANKED? I like both FF=On and FF=Off servers because the On ones give BF2142 a challenge into tactical game play and the Off ones test your individuality as a player.

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Kaboodles Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Roanoke, VA Age: 19 Posts: 89	Re: Should FF=OFF also = NON RANKED? You know what's incredibly stupid about FF=Off in this game? It also disables self-damage. Seriously, FF=Off would be much more viable with self-damage on. Solves the whole RDX bunny-hopper problem quite nicely.

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TOOmuchMcLovin Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 353	Re: Should FF=OFF also = NON RANKED? SELF damage not happening was my major complaint actually :P good call __________________ Bf2142-TOOmuchMcLovin America's Army- -=No.Ob=-McLovin Bf2-TOOmuchSEX

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Uranium - 235 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Mountain Home AFB, ID Posts: 856	Re: Should FF=OFF also = NON RANKED? How would I propel myself over buildings in daring aerial assaults then? I can see FF being forced on in some games, but I should hope that game would actually ship with decent admin tools, like those mod ones for HL2. Frankly, any server that isn't able to support a decent admin team has no business being up in the first place. __________________

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