Rabbi probed for circumcised infants' herpes

**leejo** · 02-02-2005, 07:39 PM

I have two problems with this story. Can you guess them?

In advance, ew and ew.

**Switchcraft** · 02-02-2005, 07:43 PM

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

NewsWrthy · 02-02-2005, 07:56 PM

OMG well I can Die, because I have now heard it all.

IceCold · 02-02-2005, 08:44 PM

Yet another reason why genital mutilation (even this kind that is so commonly accepted in the United States) should be illegal. Religious reasons, as this story demonstrates, are not a valid defense for this practice...

Circumcision, like removal of the clitoris and vulva, serves no medical purpose.

**Switchcraft** · 02-02-2005, 08:47 PM

I can testify that Cing has put a lot of thought into this...we discussed the morality of circumsision outside our platoon's building way back in...2001/2002?

**leejo** · 02-02-2005, 09:02 PM

Haha. Did he say it would make you go blind?

Yojimbo · 02-02-2005, 09:21 PM

I have 2 sons. Neither is circumcised. I always figured it would be up to them, once they were old enough to decide for themselves, if they wanted to have part of their penises removed.

However, I didn't know that herpes and blow jobs from old jewish guys came with the circumcision deal. I may have to change my stance.

IceCold · 02-02-2005, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Switchcraft

I can testify that Cing has put a lot of thought into this...we discussed the morality of circumsision outside our platoon's building way back in...2001/2002?

Yeah, it must've been in 2000 or 2001... Not long after my son was born...

It's beyond me why anyone would want to cut off part of their son's penis for cosmetic reasons. Like Yojimbo, I don't think cosmetic surgery, especially surgery that would remove a third of the nerve endings from a sexual organ, is something that parents should inflict on their newborns... If my son later (like in his teen years? It depends on his maturity.) decides that he wants to cut off part of his penis, I'll support him and perhaps even pay for the procedure.

www.cirp.org for more information.

Wintermute · 02-03-2005, 10:59 AM

He used his MOUTH?! That is just unspeakably wierd. In fact circumcision is unspeakably wierd altogother.

Who was the first guy to go "D'ya know, I have never had a use for this bit, neither will my son. Let's lop it off!"

And why didn't the second guy slap him and go "I shouldn't even need to tell you to just leave your son's dick alone man."

Vap0r · 02-03-2005, 01:26 PM

That link doesn't work but I am strangely entinced into seeing it..

**leejo** · 02-03-2005, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wintermute

He used his MOUTH?! That is just unspeakably wierd. In fact circumcision is unspeakably wierd altogother.

Who was the first guy to go "D'ya know, I have never had a use for this bit, neither will my son. Let's lop it off!"

And why didn't the second guy slap him and go "I shouldn't even need to tell you to just leave your son's dick alone man."

I think I know.

The first guy was a rabbi trying to get IN and he got triple-dog dared to use his mouth.

Then the other rabbis were like "DUDE! That guy is so in!!!" and shalom and all the rest and eventually the fact that it was a hazing thing got forgotten. Sunrise, sunset.

**CingularDuality** · 02-14-2005, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leejo

I think I know.

The first guy was a rabbi trying to get IN and he got triple-dog dared to use his mouth.

Then the other rabbis were like "DUDE! That guy is so in!!!" and shalom and all the rest and eventually the fact that it was a hazing thing got forgotten. Sunrise, sunset.

Dunno how I missed this.

Funny, but I think you're attempting to dismiss a serious problem in the United States.

**Pokerface** · 02-14-2005, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CingularDuality

Funny, but I think you're attempting to dismiss a serious problem in the United States.

What's the problem? Circumcision in general, or rabbis using their mouths for such?

**leejo** · 02-14-2005, 08:33 AM

I don't have a problem with circumcision and disagree with comparing it to "female circumcision". To my knowledge there are no long-term health or sexual consequences to the former and lots of problems with the latter. The vast majority of circumcisions are performed in hostpitals by (insured and liable) doctors.

How is this a serious problem? What are the consequences other than some "ew" factor some folks seem to have? There may be no medical purpose, like ear piercings, tattoos, tans, etc., etc. But it's part of our culture and if there's no harm there's no foul. Get one, don't get one, whatever.

Now...this herpes guy using his mouth. I agree that should stop.

Benny_ · 02-14-2005, 09:58 AM

Are there practices where piercing is neccessary to prove ones faith? Surely it is difficult to justify circumcision or any for of mutilation on a non-consenting person?

02-02-2005, 07:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
leejo Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 7,525	Rabbi probed for circumcised infants' herpes I have two problems with this story. Can you guess them? In advance, ew and ew.

02-02-2005, 07:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
Switchcraft Join Date: May 2003 Location: New York, NY Age: 30 Posts: 913	Re: Rabbi probed for circumcised infants' herpes I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.

02-02-2005, 07:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
NewsWrthy Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 372	Re: Rabbi probed for circumcised infants' herpes OMG well I can Die, because I have now heard it all. __________________

02-02-2005, 08:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
IceCold Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 716	Re: Rabbi probed for circumcised infants' herpes Yet another reason why genital mutilation (even this kind that is so commonly accepted in the United States) should be illegal. Religious reasons, as this story demonstrates, are not a valid defense for this practice... Circumcision, like removal of the clitoris and vulva, serves no medical purpose.

02-02-2005, 08:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
Switchcraft Join Date: May 2003 Location: New York, NY Age: 30 Posts: 913	Re: Rabbi probed for circumcised infants' herpes I can testify that Cing has put a lot of thought into this...we discussed the morality of circumsision outside our platoon's building way back in...2001/2002?

02-02-2005, 09:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
leejo Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 7,525	Re: Rabbi probed for circumcised infants' herpes Haha. Did he say it would make you go blind?

02-02-2005, 09:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
Yojimbo Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 37 Posts: 7	Re: Rabbi probed for circumcised infants' herpes I have 2 sons. Neither is circumcised. I always figured it would be up to them, once they were old enough to decide for themselves, if they wanted to have part of their penises removed. However, I didn't know that herpes and blow jobs from old jewish guys came with the circumcision deal. I may have to change my stance.

02-03-2005, 10:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
Wintermute Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Age: 24 Posts: 1,166	Re: Rabbi probed for circumcised infants' herpes He used his MOUTH?! That is just unspeakably wierd. In fact circumcision is unspeakably wierd altogother. Who was the first guy to go "D'ya know, I have never had a use for this bit, neither will my son. Let's lop it off!" And why didn't the second guy slap him and go "I shouldn't even need to tell you to just leave your son's dick alone man." __________________ Wintermute Play EVE online. It's like being an accounting addict in space. www.MakePovertyHistory.com

02-03-2005, 01:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
Vap0r Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 310	Re: Rabbi probed for circumcised infants' herpes That link doesn't work but I am strangely entinced into seeing it..

02-14-2005, 08:33 AM	#14 (permalink)
leejo Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 39 Posts: 7,525	Re: Rabbi probed for circumcised infants' herpes I don't have a problem with circumcision and disagree with comparing it to "female circumcision". To my knowledge there are no long-term health or sexual consequences to the former and lots of problems with the latter. The vast majority of circumcisions are performed in hostpitals by (insured and liable) doctors. How is this a serious problem? What are the consequences other than some "ew" factor some folks seem to have? There may be no medical purpose, like ear piercings, tattoos, tans, etc., etc. But it's part of our culture and if there's no harm there's no foul. Get one, don't get one, whatever. Now...this herpes guy using his mouth. I agree that should stop.

02-14-2005, 09:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
Benny_ Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 369	Re: Rabbi probed for circumcised infants' herpes Are there practices where piercing is neccessary to prove ones faith? Surely it is difficult to justify circumcision or any for of mutilation on a non-consenting person?

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