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Old 12-07-2003, 05:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Securing Windows

Most of you know I am studying Computer and Network Security. I figured I would layout some links to help everyone secure their pc’s especially with the amount of viruses that are going around now.


These are just baseline standards to get security started on your machine.

Windows NT 4.0 Workstation

Windows NT 4.0 Server

Windows 2000 Server

Windows XP

For additional security you can use a firewall (I do not give recommendations).

ZoneAlarm® Pro
Tiny Firewall 5.0
Norton
McAfee's
Black ICE


also if you use Windows Server 2003, Windows 2000, or Windows XP you can run Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer to see how secure your machine is.
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Old 12-07-2003, 05:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I thought the best way of securing your computer was to uninstall any type of Windows operating system
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Old 12-07-2003, 05:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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I thought the best way of securing your computer was to uninstall any type of Windows operating system
Well not all are able to understand linux or Mac so they worship Winblows
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I have complaints across the board. I will admit to being very "at home" while using a command line, but I don't believe that's true for the majority of users.

At some point I'm going to have to load a minimal linux installation and then tack on its modules one by one. I have a rather large disagreement with the default directory structure, and I find it impossible to learn from standard installations of Redhat and its ilk. By the time I'm done, I'd probably end up with my own flavor of linux. For now, however, I'd rather play games.
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Old 12-07-2003, 06:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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I have a rather large disagreement with the default directory structure, and I find it impossible to learn from standard installations of Redhat and its ilk
Ever tried your hand with FreeBSD? Every packaged linux will feel cobbled-together after you've become comfortable in a BSDish environment. Directory layouts that make sense, stable, easy to upgrade the base system binaries and compile a custom kernel, great ports system for installing third-party software...
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Old 12-07-2003, 06:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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Since I have WinXP I went ahead and ran this security check program

However it says some things were not right that didn't make sense

For example, it says that I don't have all the security updates installed, yet when I go to the site, it says I have all critical updates installed....

It gives me this message

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MS02-055

Unchecked Buffer in Windows Help Facility Could Enable Code Execution (Q323255)

File D:\WINDOWS\system32\hhctrl.ocx has a file version [5.2.3735.0] that is greater than what is expected [5.2.3669.0].
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Flaw In Windows Media Player May Allow Media Library Access (819639)

File D:\WINDOWS\system32\wmp.dll has a file version [9.0.0.3075] that is greater than what is expected [9.0.0.3008].
okay, I am not a computer expert but isn't a file version of 5.2.3735.0 a newer version than 5.2.3669.0 and should be okay? Seems like a couple of false failures to me.
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Unchecked Buffer in Windows Help Facility Could Enable Code Execution (Q323255)

File D:\WINDOWS\system32\hhctrl.ocx has a file version [5.2.3735.0] that is greater than what is expected [5.2.3669.0].
okay, I am not a computer expert but isn't a file version of 5.2.3735.0 a newer version than 5.2.3669.0 and should be okay? Seems like a couple of false failures to me.
It's a fail-safe warning. The program doesn't know about the newer versions, so it warns the user that the existing version doesn't match the program's database. Can be safely ignored, especially if you keep up-to-date and the warning is about a vuln. patched back in 2002
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correct verbose.

I forgot about the stupid false warnings it gives. But, for the most part it will tell you some good stuff
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Just as a FYI, I wasn't trashing it or the information you provided, I just wanted to inform others that it may give you false warnings
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Oh I know. Trashing eachother is for other threads
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the only way to secure windows is to unplug the pc from the power source
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Verbose, I don't believe I've ever tried FreeBSD, although I am aware of it. I'll definitely be giving it a go the next time I have a few hours to kill.

Despite all of its numerous flaws, I miss DOS. :?
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Verbose, I don't believe I've ever tried FreeBSD, although I am aware of it. I'll definitely be giving it a go the next time I have a few hours to kill.
Don't expect a flashy, hand-holding install or configuration. FreeBSD is all business, which you'll come to love. No fluff, "just the facts, ma'am" style computing. The handbook on freebsd.org is a handy reference. Initial learning curve can be steep, but it's well worth it. I've come to loathe all the Linux boxen that I maintain at work, because working with FreeBSD is so much more pleasant. Actually...I think I've managed to replace all the Linux installs with FreeBSD save for...one. One left, then I'm free! :P
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I actually think this would work good as a *cough* sticky *cough*
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At some point I'm going to have to load a minimal linux installation and then tack on its modules one by one. I have a rather large disagreement with the default directory structure, and I find it impossible to learn from standard installations of Redhat and its ilk. By the time I'm done, I'd probably end up with my own flavor of linux. For now, however, I'd rather play games.
It's called Gentoo.

But keep Windows for Steam.
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