Dead enemy not seeing your position...

Ben · 06-29-2005, 07:18 PM

I believe that it will be beneficial to all if you changed the setting allowing dead players to view their opponents positions. By allowing a player to see his opponents position while dead, it gives away key strategic positions for the opponent and he will be unlikely to use this "good" position the next round.
My suggestion is to only allow players, while dead, to view their own teammates.
|TG| Ben

Root · 06-29-2005, 07:34 PM

We only do this for tourny matches.

Current settings help new players to learn.

Root

Karkianman101 · 06-29-2005, 07:43 PM

Could we change the protected server to team cam and keep the public server all cam?

Root · 06-29-2005, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karkianman101

Could we change the protected server to team cam and keep the public server all cam?

I'm not inclined to change it on server 2 either. That's not a solid no, just how I feel about it.

Root

Damage Inc. · 06-30-2005, 03:20 PM

I think that a "good position" would be given away the next round reguardless if you use it in the preceding round, and players you killed would be looking to that spot the next time around. Aside from that I really wouldnt care either way. Being able to spectate all does make being dead a bit less of a dread (oh yeah! im a hardcore rapper son!). It's fun doing the whole horror movie "Don't go in there!" *bam* "....I told you not to go in there."

Wintermute · 06-30-2005, 03:46 PM

I deliberately look at what tactics the other team is using, especially on new maps. Competition isn't the issue on our server, keeping tactics fresh and making it competative for both teams is.

**Vulcan** · 06-30-2005, 06:25 PM

I usually communicate to my team those kinds of spots, if i can get it into words that is. :P

aesop rock · 02-24-2006, 10:11 PM

I think it's fair to say that every 'good position' has been used a million times, by people all over the world.

No pun intended. Honest.

poe · 02-25-2006, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aesop rock

I think it's fair to say that every 'good position' has been used a million times, by people all over the world.

No pun intended. Honest.

And each thrice by me.

Priest · 02-25-2006, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aesop rock

I think it's fair to say that every 'good position' has been used a million times, by people all over the world.

No pun intended. Honest.

My uuberspot on Spirits is still relatively unknown, me, a few people, and WHISTLER >.<

Needless to say I always end up playin on the opposite team as him rendering my spot useless :P

**Dirtboy** · 02-25-2006, 09:04 PM

I agree with root on this one(i know i cant believe it myself). Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Server 1 made to learn the rules, practice, have fun, and the learn the game also. Say you are new here and you are getting popped off in the same area, but cant see anyone. It gets frustrating. Now i dont know if it is the same in server 2, but I think that is a good thing to see where you got hit and then next time avoid doing the same thing

Root · 02-26-2006, 01:44 PM

Since this thread was started, my opinion has shifted. I'm now of the view that server 2 should definitely restrict players from spectating the other team. There won't be any changes for now, but PCSP's should offer their opinions in the private forum.

Karkianman101 · 02-26-2006, 10:47 PM

And now, on this glorious day, Root's wisdom doth reach mine own, and he hath completed the journey towards the thoughts which I already heldeth.

Root · 02-27-2006, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karkianman101

And now, on this glorious day, Root's wisdom doth reach mine own, and he hath completed the journey towards the thoughts which I already heldeth.

Well I can't afford to have a one track mind like you

**Rincewind** · 02-27-2006, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Root

Well I can't afford to have a one track mind like you

It doesn't cost much.

06-29-2005, 07:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ben Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Israel / Memphis Age: 31 Posts: 872	Dead enemy not seeing your position... I believe that it will be beneficial to all if you changed the setting allowing dead players to view their opponents positions. By allowing a player to see his opponents position while dead, it gives away key strategic positions for the opponent and he will be unlikely to use this "good" position the next round. My suggestion is to only allow players, while dead, to view their own teammates. \|TG\| Ben

06-29-2005, 07:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
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06-30-2005, 03:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
Damage Inc. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minnesota Age: 21 Posts: 101	Re: Dead enemy not seeing your position... I think that a "good position" would be given away the next round reguardless if you use it in the preceding round, and players you killed would be looking to that spot the next time around. Aside from that I really wouldnt care either way. Being able to spectate all does make being dead a bit less of a dread (oh yeah! im a hardcore rapper son!). It's fun doing the whole horror movie "Don't go in there!" bam "....I told you not to go in there." __________________ "A wise man speaks because he has something to say. A fool speaks because he has to say something." - Plato

06-30-2005, 03:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
Wintermute Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Age: 24 Posts: 1,166	Re: Dead enemy not seeing your position... I deliberately look at what tactics the other team is using, especially on new maps. Competition isn't the issue on our server, keeping tactics fresh and making it competative for both teams is. __________________ Wintermute Play EVE online. It's like being an accounting addict in space. www.MakePovertyHistory.com

06-30-2005, 06:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
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aesop rock Join Date: May 2005 Location: Olympia, WA Age: 27 Posts: 312	Re: Dead enemy not seeing your position... I think it's fair to say that every 'good position' has been used a million times, by people all over the world. No pun intended. Honest. __________________ "Who put the fun in dysfunctional? I." - Aesop Rock (http://www.mushrecords.com/release.php?REAID=38) "Cuz you can choose to say 'Good morning, God' or 'Good God.. morning!" -Blackalicious It is my firm belief that, until we humans stop using human nature as an excuse for our actions, we will never realize our true nature.

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Dirtboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Las Vegas! Age: 24 Posts: 3,178	Re: Dead enemy not seeing your position... I agree with root on this one(i know i cant believe it myself). Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Server 1 made to learn the rules, practice, have fun, and the learn the game also. Say you are new here and you are getting popped off in the same area, but cant see anyone. It gets frustrating. Now i dont know if it is the same in server 2, but I think that is a good thing to see where you got hit and then next time avoid doing the same thing __________________ \|TG-6th\| Dirtboy Need an Admin? \| Want to help TG? \| The 6th Devil's Brigade Jump on it!

02-26-2006, 01:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
Root Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South east england Posts: 8,839	Re: Dead enemy not seeing your position... Since this thread was started, my opinion has shifted. I'm now of the view that server 2 should definitely restrict players from spectating the other team. There won't be any changes for now, but PCSP's should offer their opinions in the private forum. __________________ BFCL TF2 league admin

02-26-2006, 10:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
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