Server 1 emptying early

[jepzilla]

I've noticed that since the new reservation system was put in place server 1 has been emptying very early.

I think it was mentioned that the system kicks non-SMs by time (so it'll kick the last non-SM to join when it needs to free up a slot). Before with manual kicks it was more or less random (or so I assume), but now it seems to me that basically no non-SMs on the west coast can get on because the server is full by the time they come on (even when they do manage to grab a slot, they'll get kicked almost immediately). This is just my hypothesis, but I think the policy should maybe be changed to something more random to give west-coasters and those who come online later a better chance at getting on?

[Dark Viper]

I'm thinking a lot of the people who* played on the server, don't come to the forums and don't know about the reserved slot system. Therefore, they think that they have been banned from the server because it won't let them in when there is only 62 players in the server. So they give up and find a different server.

[Tempus]

That is an interesting hypothesis..

I have noticed the server getting emptier sooner as well, but I'm not sure it started with the new system. Players have been playing a little less than before lately to start with anyway..

The problem with a more random selection is that players may survive the first kick, start getting into the games, and 20 minutes later get kicked while a new joiner survives. How would you feel about that?

I'm open to hearing more ideas, though.

[Pokerface]

How about we have a second server? :P

[Shiner]

I think you could make a solid argument that it should kick the non-sm that has been playing the longest.

This would allow non-sms to have an opputunity to squeeze in and get some play while essentially being "rotated" out as they become the next longest to have been on the server.

[Preston85]

I got kicked last night early on, I was sure there were people joining after me, I joined when the server was at 52 i think.

But it was password night and i joined before it was passworded. do you kick all the none SM/regulars when you password it? took me ages to realise it was passworded and rejoined 15 minutes later with 46 people on.

Oh, YOUR ALL LIGHTWEIGHTS, hehe sever emptied to about 20 people at 4/5am GMT. sleeping is giving in.

[Dark Viper]

Originally Posted by Shiner

I think you could make a solid argument that it should kick the non-sm that has been playing the longest.

This would allow non-sms to have an opputunity to squeeze in and get some play while essentially being "rotated" out as they become the next longest to have been on the server.

How would they rotate if it only kicks when a SM tries to join. A non-SM would still be out in the cold if the server was full.

[JMJ]

Originally Posted by Dark Viper

I'm thinking a lot of the people to played on the server, don't come to the forums and don't know about the reserved slot system. Therefore, they think that they have been banned from the server because it won't let them in when there is only 62 players in the server. So they give up and find a different server.

I would buy that theory...the messages they get when trying to join with 62 are usually something like "kicked for excessive TK'ing", etc. They may think they have been banned.

[JMJ]

Originally Posted by Preston85

I got kicked last night early on, I was sure there were people joining after me, I joined when the server was at 52 i think.

But it was password night and i joined before it was passworded. do you kick all the none SM/regulars when you password it? took me ages to realise it was passworded and rejoined 15 minutes later with 46 people on.

Oh, YOUR ALL LIGHTWEIGHTS, hehe sever emptied to about 20 people at 4/5am GMT. sleeping is giving in.

Yes, when the server gets the password enabled it gets reset, kicking everyone who's on. They have to re-join.

[Apophis]

Originally Posted by Shiner

I think you could make a solid argument that it should kick the non-sm that has been playing the longest.

This would allow non-sms to have an opputunity to squeeze in and get some play while essentially being "rotated" out as they become the next longest to have been on the server.

I agree with this. It's hard to attract new players if they get kicked as soon as they join. If they have time to play for a while before getting booted for a reserved slot, at least they've had time to experience what TG is all about.

[Pokerface]

Originally Posted by Apophis

I agree with this. It's hard to attract new players if they get kicked as soon as they join. If they have time to play for a while before getting booted for a reserved slot, at least they've had time to experience what TG is all about.

At the same time, though, a player with less time on the server is less likely to be entrenched in the plans of his team and his SL.

I guess there's an imbalance here; one side looks at quality gameplay, and the other looks at TG expansion. I serve at the pleasure of the GO, and will change it if needed.

[StrikeFear]

Originally Posted by Pokerface

How about we have a second server? :P

LOL!

[Wulfyn]

But it was password night and i joined before it was passworded. do you kick all the none SM/regulars when you password it? took me ages to realise it was passworded and rejoined 15 minutes later with 46 people on.

Roger that - the server has to be restarted, so it's not so much a case of kicking people as there not being a server anymore

I did spam the server messages a few times saying that I would apply the password after that round had ended. My advice is if there is <15 mins / 100 tickets to go around the password time look out for these messages.

[Preston85]

Originally Posted by Wulfyn

Roger that - the server has to be restarted, so it's not so much a case of kicking people as there not being a server anymore

I did spam the server messages a few times saying that I would apply the password after that round had ended. My advice is if there is <15 mins / 100 tickets to go around the password time look out for these messages.

thanks for the info. didn't know you had to resart the server, we could lock our rainbow 6 servers with a simple command.

I thought it was the middle of the round and we were in heavy combat holding the Blackhawk spawn on Mashtur, maybe i didn't spot the timer but tickets were well over 200+ i think. I was mid sentence when I was kicked so wasn't to pleased at the time. I must of missed the warnings cos of the battle.

[Wyzcrak]

Originally Posted by Pokerface

I serve at the pleasure of the GO, and will change it if needed.

Not to derail this topic, and not to stroke Poker's man-pride any more than is absolutely necessary, but...

... being a GO whose pleasure it is to benefit from Poker's service (no, Ender, not that kind of service), I must point out how proud I was to read this. This gentleman certainly does spend a lot of his personal time (as do all admins, including myself and, to a greater degree than anyone -- including myself, Apophis) working to create the top-notch environment we all play in, and that sometimes includes (even for Apophis) doing things that serve the game or the community seemingly more than they meet your personal needs as you view them at that moment.

Much love to everyone here who serves at the pleasure of someone else, including Pokernub.

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