This isn't a race.

jepzilla · 10-17-2005, 12:02 PM

This is a car from GT4.

This is an APC from BF2.

Notice the differences. The APC lacks the streamlined design of the race car, the added armor and weapon systems increase its weight substantially, the extra wheels waste engine power and it's gearing is all off. It isn't a very good vehicle to race in. So why oh why do people do it anyway? If you're driving an APC and your squadmate is driving a tank, SLOW DOWN. You don't get bonus points for beating the tank to the flag. You get AT rockets and death.

Similarly, let's say you've just been given an order to attack a flag, you're in a piece of armor and someone else is grabbing another piece of armor from a different CP. Now if your first thought is 'Great! A headstart!' you should be playing:

I shouldn't have to be telling people the obvious ... but I do, every time I get in one of these things.

TychoCelchuuu · 10-17-2005, 12:10 PM

Yeah. Tank goes in, then when the AT guys try to blow it away, hit them with the APC's gun. Just because your faster doesn't mean you need to get there first.

James315 · 10-17-2005, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jepzilla

If you're driving an APC and your squadmate is driving a tank, SLOW DOWN. You don't get bonus points for beating the tank to the flag.

Actually you do. The BF2 scoring system was intended to increase teamplay, but I think they went against that with the whole "first to flag gets extra points" idea. It discourages people from staying behind, supporting and providing cover fire.

Thank goodness this isn't a ranked server.

**Tempus** · 10-17-2005, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by James315

Thank goodness this isn't a ranked server.

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Bommando · 10-17-2005, 12:53 PM

Everybody give Jepzilla mucho rep.

He is a wise man.

Wulfyn · 10-17-2005, 12:54 PM

I say give him rocket fuel for his tank so he can keep up

Xink · 10-17-2005, 12:59 PM

yeap, heavy takes the hits, apc's take down the targets after they flag the shooters,
though apcs advantage on the field is their speed

jepzilla · 10-17-2005, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wulfyn

I say give him rocket fuel for his tank so he can keep up

Too bad BF2 doesn't have physics like GTA3/VC/SA. You could race around at 100mph in tanks by firing the gun backwards repeatedly. Helloooo recoil.

Steeler · 10-17-2005, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jepzilla

Too bad BF2 doesn't have physics like GTA3/VC/SA. You could race around at 100mph in tanks by firing the gun backwards repeatedly. Helloooo recoil.

We need a "cars as boats" and a "low gravity" mod now. Oh, and one that let's us change all the character models into strippers. And Hawaiian shirts - we need those too.

Battlefield: Vice City

StrikeFear · 10-17-2005, 01:22 PM

LOL @ Steeler !

<serious> Yeah, try to coordinate your armor attacks. The other day, the 42nd was attacking a CP on Fushe Pass. Our CP spawned 3 pieces of armor. One of our APCs went in first to draw fire and distract. When the enemy had turned to engage, the other 2 pieces entered from the opposite direction and wrecked shop. This is one good way to maximize your asset's power. </serious>

jepzilla · 10-17-2005, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeler

We need a "cars as boats" and a "low gravity" mod now. Oh, and one that let's us change all the character models into strippers. And Hawaiian shirts - we need those too.

Battlefield: Vice City

I tried typing in GIVEUSATANK but no M1A2 fell from the sky.

munchkin · 10-17-2005, 04:53 PM

That would ROCK. Can you imagine teamwork oriented play...in a golf buggy?

aculle01 · 10-17-2005, 05:06 PM

Good point but I think it should be continued to all armor. Armor is pretty much dead if it lacks infantry support. You need the infantry to protect its blind spots and take out approaching threats. I know other vehicles can help in this but a tank or apc cant climb a roof, run down a narrow alley or especially with the 1.03 patch cap a flag by itself. So tanks and APCs sometimes need to remember that they have infantry behind them. Yes the APC can carry the troops but I think most people see riding in the back of the Ap...You will respawn in 15..14..13..12...

Gunrack · 10-17-2005, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by munchkin

That would ROCK. Can you imagine teamwork oriented play...in a golf buggy?

They had 2 seater golf buggies in JO:E (Joint Ops: Escalation. Don't think they had them in regular JO). Used to have a lot of fun in those, especially watching everyone on the map stop what they were doing at the time to try to destroy those little buggies driving by. The other fun part was putting some satchels in the back, sneaking up to some armor (or people), and remote detonating it while running away on foot.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, aren't they adding dirt bikes to the bf2 expansion?

Correction: From the screen shots of BF2:Special Forces, it looks like jet skis and ATVs.

Thierry · 10-17-2005, 05:22 PM

*shoots GT4 car with tank*

10-17-2005, 12:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
jepzilla Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Halifax, Canada Age: 26 Posts: 1,232	This isn't a race. This is a car from GT4. This is an APC from BF2. Notice the differences. The APC lacks the streamlined design of the race car, the added armor and weapon systems increase its weight substantially, the extra wheels waste engine power and it's gearing is all off. It isn't a very good vehicle to race in. So why oh why do people do it anyway? If you're driving an APC and your squadmate is driving a tank, SLOW DOWN. You don't get bonus points for beating the tank to the flag. You get AT rockets and death. Similarly, let's say you've just been given an order to attack a flag, you're in a piece of armor and someone else is grabbing another piece of armor from a different CP. Now if your first thought is 'Great! A headstart!' you should be playing: I shouldn't have to be telling people the obvious ... but I do, every time I get in one of these things.

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StrikeFear Join Date: May 2003 Location: Austin, TX Age: 38 Posts: 1,877	Re: This isn't a race. LOL @ Steeler ! <serious> Yeah, try to coordinate your armor attacks. The other day, the 42nd was attacking a CP on Fushe Pass. Our CP spawned 3 pieces of armor. One of our APCs went in first to draw fire and distract. When the enemy had turned to engage, the other 2 pieces entered from the opposite direction and wrecked shop. This is one good way to maximize your asset's power. </serious> __________________ "You live and learn. Or you don't live long." - Lazarus Long

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aculle01 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Monterey, CA Age: 25 Posts: 1,398	Re: This isn't a race. Good point but I think it should be continued to all armor. Armor is pretty much dead if it lacks infantry support. You need the infantry to protect its blind spots and take out approaching threats. I know other vehicles can help in this but a tank or apc cant climb a roof, run down a narrow alley or especially with the 1.03 patch cap a flag by itself. So tanks and APCs sometimes need to remember that they have infantry behind them. Yes the APC can carry the troops but I think most people see riding in the back of the Ap...You will respawn in 15..14..13..12... __________________ "I once thought I had mono for an entire year. It turned out I was just really bored."

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