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Old 10-25-2005, 04:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Cool Scrim Conduct Suggestions

I propose the following "Code of Conduct" type issues that I would like to see improve when scrims take place. Please feel free to leave your feedback as well!

- Participants arrive on time ready to start the round
- Participants do not TK each other at ANY TIME
- Participants do not make movements on the map that would indicate a possible strategy, EVEN if that strategy is NOT the one to be used
- Participants wait to squad up until the squad list is in the correct order

Basically, I feel that non-scrim playing should take place on another server, and not on the scrim server between rounds, since that leads to delays in getting the squads setup, possible kicks (due to TKs), and other complications of that nature.

I hope I'm not being the Rules Police or anything but I just want to see the scrimmages run as smoothly as possible and I know we can do a better job starting on time and running the rounds on time than we have been lately, especially since it seems we are hosting a good number of scrims in the near future. Agree, disagree?

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Old 10-25-2005, 05:13 PM   #2 (permalink)



 
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Re: Scrim Conduct Suggestions

I agree wholeheartedly.

There was a lot of "smacktardery" going on this past weekend in between rounds. There was a lot of TK'ing going on involving people that had NO DESIRE WHATSOEVER to be a part of it as well as a lot of vehicle destruction that other players desired to use to get warmed up.

It got pretty bad a couple times and I went on a kickfest. This type of behavior needs to be kept in check as it does not conform to any sort of maturity I am aware of. If you insist on being a smacktard, do so on your own server or some random public server, not the TG servers.
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Old 10-25-2005, 05:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Re: Scrim Conduct Suggestions

what he said. i heard alot of complaining between rounds when players said they were kicked because of execssive TKing. really, i wonder why? .
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Old 10-25-2005, 05:28 PM   #4 (permalink)



 
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Re: Scrim Conduct Suggestions

I agree, I was trying to hide at times just to stay alive only to be found and knifed. Good write up Sassy.
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Old 10-25-2005, 05:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Re: Scrim Conduct Suggestions

Agreed. I was surprised that it took a while between rounds to restore order so we could get the roster together. People put effort into setting up and coordinating these scrims. The least participants could do is to make sure that it goes as smoothly as possible.

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Old 10-25-2005, 06:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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Re: Scrim Conduct Suggestions

I'd like to propose an amendment to the conduct rules:

-When we kill the enemy, we shall bathe in their blood and feast on their still-beating hearts.
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Re: Scrim Conduct Suggestions

sorry....i did some TKing and got kickd a few times for it....im just not going to play in any scrims any more...i cuase more problems then help.
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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- Participants wait to squad up until the squad list is in the correct order
Sometimes the auto-kick script is left on, but yeah.
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:46 PM   #9 (permalink)
 
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Re: Scrim Conduct Suggestions

Sorry about the tking, I did it a few times on accident Other times I didn't understand why some people got kicked (see sig for JMJ kick). I normally just tk when the guy and I are going at each other with knives in the first place. Or they're afk and prone and I place a few claymores right around them.
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
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Re: Scrim Conduct Suggestions

the TG-TG scrim was rediculous. we had guys get kicked becuase they had negative points from suiciding, falling off a building, or crashing a plane, ect.

i agree with the TG mindset and the rules that are currently in place, but (and pardon my french), i'm really getting annoyed with how tightassed some people have become.

it's a game. we're not going to sit and stare at our computer monitors for twenty minutes while the higher-ups argue with each other on teamspeak. we're going to mess around merely as a means of entertaining ourselves and passing the time- i don't see anything wrong with it.
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it's a game. we're not going to sit and stare at our computer monitors for twenty minutes while the higher-ups argue with each other on teamspeak. we're going to mess around merely as a means of entertaining ourselves and passing the time- i don't see anything wrong with it.
I agree. Of course I was one kicked for TK'ing. It was only a c4 charge on 2 players and it was also the only TK I committed but I do think we might be getting a bit uppity here. I can see though how multiple players getting kicked for TK or whatever can interfere with the game. Perhaps just turing that off would help.
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The problem is burble that whilst this TK'ing is going on people who are trying to organise or go through plans, or communicate are being killed. You may think it is fine but others do not.

And you're wrong - it is not a game. The game is the bit where it goes live and we are playing. Anything in between is "waiting", so please wait.

The other problem is that it gets people frustrated. I'll admit that I have TK'd between rounds on a scrim because I was fed up getting shot at and knifed - not the right way to respond, and I apologise for that. (There was also a technical issue on the TG vs 7th scrim where my left mouse button counted as being held down... not so bad if I hadn't had c4 out - apologies to Varp and perry I think for that one).

The end result is that guys like JMJ who had a negative score for a non TK issue got kicked because so many other peole had created a precedent.
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Sorry about the tking, I did it a few times on accident Other times I didn't understand why some people got kicked (see sig for JMJ kick). I normally just tk when the guy and I are going at each other with knives in the first place. Or they're afk and prone and I place a few claymores right around them.
I did make a couple mistakes during my kickfest, such as JMJ and Pickle. But for the most part my attentions were focused on those people simply being disruptive with their actions and not caring who they were killing. I also kicked a number of people for UCB camping. I can't count the number of times I died in my UCB while trying to get prepared with my squad. That type of behavior is just rediculous.
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we're going to mess around merely as a means of entertaining ourselves and passing the time- i don't see anything wrong with it.
If you're going to do this in a manner that is completely disruptive of other player's ability to coordinate and assemble, you're going to get kicked.

I didn't kick anyone for simply having a -2 score from a single suicide or plane crash. I did kick players for ramming vehicles in the opposing teams UCB with their jets though. I'm not sure what instance YOU are talking about, but I would wager that the full story of their activities was either not disclosed to you or is being conveniently left out.

In any case; show a little respect for the people who don't want to be a part of your smacktardery and leave them out of it. You need to realize that the majority of players on Tactical Gamer are not 19 years old or younger. We profess to be a MATURE gaming community and we expect maturity from our members.

I realize you've only been around for three months, and that how "tightassed" we have become is a matter of relativity, but I can assure you, we have not condoned this type of wholesale disruption of other players ANYWHERE in our 9 year history.
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i agree with the TG mindset and the rules that are currently in place, but (and pardon my french), i'm really getting annoyed with how tightassed some people have become.

it's a game. we're not going to sit and stare at our computer monitors for twenty minutes while the higher-ups argue with each other on teamspeak. we're going to mess around merely as a means of entertaining ourselves and passing the time- i don't see anything wrong with it.
Nothing to do with being tightassed. The reason it took twenty minutes is because of all the chaos. If there was more focus on setting up instead of fooling around, it wouldnt have taken so long. The problem was the entertainment was taking place instead of the scrim.
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