Votekick Bombers

[FPS_Douglas]

Anyone who agrees, sign. They've gotten to a point of absurdity, and the bomber pilots will only get better. If Dice/EA won't do anything about them, perhaps something can be done about them in this community.



/sign

[Pickle]

[Bommando]

Hmmm. I can understand your frustration. I think there is a bit lacking in the delivery.

Better solution: Learn how to fly a fighter and cannon them into oblivion.

[tau_neutrino]

A guy with a pistol has a greater chance to damage a jet/helitank than AA. AA should be an effective deterrent vs air assets, not free and easy kills.

[FPS_Douglas]

You can have that opinion on the delivery, that's fine. It's the issue that I'm concerned about, not some dood's opinion about the delivery. It cannot reasonably be argued that it's not an imbalance. I've seen the best fighter pilots on the server in action, and they are amazing, they do get some kills vs. good bomber pilots, but not before that good pilot has the most kills on the server. This = huge imbalance. The majority of the community here plays on the ground and IS frustrated often about this. Shouldn't the community's be what influences the server rules and policies? Let's see how many people sign, or at least think the spawn time should be HUGE for bombers.

The reality the situation is, however, that there is rarely great fighter pilots on both teams. This = massive frustration. So people, if you think the bombers are an imbalance, /sign... at least for a much longer spawn time for them.

You solution is not better. I did not buy a flight simm, and will not be forced to play that role because of an inherent imbalance in the game.

[Bommando]

Be careful where you are taking this. If you are seriously suggesting that people votekick bomber pilots, then this thread is more silly than I thought. I kind of assumed you were joking.

To be honest, I rarely notice an imbalance unless there is a good bomber pilot against crappy fighters or none at all.

Increasing spawn times has been discussed and this might be an option if we can get it to work reliably on the server side.

I don't see a need for a bunch of people to sign for this like some anti-air petition. The ONLY solution I see to the problem is increasing spawn times for jets / bombers and this is aleady being considered. So as far as I can see, this is another duplicate thread whining about air power.

[Eggplant999]

I actually cancelled my sub to TG for this reason tonight, coupled with the choppers.

Just isn't fun anymore, ya I'm a decent pilot and can rack up 200+ point rounds in the bomber and 100+ easily in the fighters, but its too easy. I get on the ground and it happens to me, non-stop, every level that has a jet or a helo. You consistently see the SAME people EVERY night in the choppers getting MASSIVE amount of kills, while this may be partly because they are decent pilots, it still points to air being overpowered, and it gets old very quick.

This has been brewing a while for me, and with being camped at the UCB tonight for a whole hour on oman by an enemy jet, the latest nade launcher fests, and the whole i can't live for 1 min on dalian plant without getting shot by a chopper thing, sorta pushed my limits.

TG is a good place, BF2 is the problem, hopefully ghost recon 3 will be good and I'll cya guys then, until then farewell.

[Pickle]

I get frustrated by bombers too...however..votekicking a bomber pilot because he is too good is wrong. What's next? Votekicking Jusb because his sniper kills are too high? Dangerous precedent!

I would also like to add that I think this violates some TG rules. I would actually apply the "respect other members" rules. At the very least it violates the spirit of TG. Lets find another solution.

[FPS_Douglas]

LOL Bombando, you criticized my delivery.....

I'm not talking about kicking bomber pilots. If you can find a point in this thread where I takled about kicking pilots, then I agree, that is silly. What I'm talking about is either taking bombers out entirely, or increasing thier spawn time by a huge margin.

This isn't a shot against players, pilots or the TG community. I honestly believe that THE GAMING EXPERIENCE OF THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMUNITY IS LESSENED BECAUSE OF BOMBERS. I put that in caps so you will get my point.

Honestly, it really doesn't matter to me what you think about people signing this. You're criticizing my delivery, putting words in my mouth and calling what I am doing "whining about air power". I know caps are annoying and I don't want to use them again, so I want you to really read what I am about to write. This was a post for the community to vote on whether to do something about an imbalance. It's about what the community wants. So, voice your opinion on the subject, period. If you want to say I'm whining or whatever, say it in a PM. This thread is meant to get the opinion of the community as a whole. Let's hear from the good fighter pilots too. When you play against a very good bomber pilot, be honest, is he often still the highest scorer on the server. How many of you develped this skill just to offset an imbalance?

Thanks my 34 cents

PS. Is Jusb in the top 3 every round? Not even close. Not a shot against Jusb, he's a good sniper, but anything else, except a good bomber pilot in BF2, can be countered effectively.

[Steel_Penguin]

Kicking people for playing a certain position=lamest solution ever.
I know a lot of regulars don't like the bomber imbalance but i doubt that if you try to kick them for that reason you will get very many votes from regulars. Kick votes rarely pass anyway and kicking someone for a stupid reason like that is just as absurd as the imbalance itself.I agree with Pickle wholeheartedly that this violates both the rules and the spirit of TG and I vote this thread be shut down.

[FPS_Douglas]

Read more carefully.

[Turbo]

Originally Posted by FPS_Douglas

Read more carefully.

It seems to me that he started posting before you submitted your post.

[Bommando]

Looks like I misunderstood your intention Douglas. Your post title was Votekick Bombers and I took it literally.

I have no problem with people voting to nerf air power if it's within our technical boundaries on our server. I will do nothing to stop people from voting in this thread.

That said, this discussion has been covered many times and I just didn't see a need to renew it.

It is also not your place to tell me what to post in the forums and what to PM. If I was abusive to you, then you'd have a point. I was not, so let's not turn this into a pissing contest.

Vote if you like, make suggestions and otherwise. Just bear in mind that it has likely been said at least once before.

[FPS_Douglas]

Whoops, sorry

I may have been more vague than I thought. When I say bombers, I mean the aircraft itself, not the pilots of the aircraft. Sorry for the confusion, I just assumed everyone made that assumption. :S

[StrikeFear]

Douglas - your thread title is "Votekick Bombers". That's why Bommando thinks you're talking about votekicking bombers.

When VMFA-531 fighter pilots are on the opposite team, they are able to almost entirely shut down the bomber. He's not able to operate effectively.
So yeah, I'd say it's an issue with not having good air cover.