PC Gaming Really Is Dying

lunisicx · 11-10-2005, 03:36 AM

I used to fight this idea that the consoles are killing PC gaming, but after the wash of feeble releases this holiday gaming season, I think it's finally coming true.

I got this from broadbandreports.com forum. To read the rest of it the link is below.

http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,14699959

P.S. I just want your thought from the TG peeps about this subject.

**Wyzcrak** · 11-10-2005, 10:25 AM

Call me behind the times, but I saw stuff in AoE3 that I'd never seen before. Granted, it's Microsoft, and they have a history with me when it comes to being the first to present to me someone else's innovation and calling it their own (which means it isn't innovation at all), so it probably wasn't really innovation at all.

Nothing in that forum thread makes my future as a PC gamer (with lots of people to accompany me) feel threatened.

**kormendi** · 11-10-2005, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lunisicx

P.S. I just want your thought from the TG peeps about this subject.

Well, it appears to be the opinion of one guy who is fed up with the current offering of games. I dont feel PC gaming to be dying, but I dont buy many games either.

The guy seems to want more innovation and originality. Sure I want new games to be original, but that doesnt always make a good game. (Black and White) Sometimes a rehash of an old idea can make a good game. (BF2, CIV4) Just because companies want to make money through products that they know will sell, doesnt mean PC gaming is dying. Most certainly its not doing much for promoting groundbreaking gameplay, but to the publishers that is a big risk.

Mateo · 11-10-2005, 10:31 AM

Oh noes, PC gaming is dead!

I look out at the future releases and see: Neverwinter Nights 2, Prey, Spore, UT2007, a new Morrowind, an expansion to WOW, Rise of Nations 2.....

That's alot of good gaming for a dead platform.

This topic always comes up before a new round of console platforms arrive, and it never happens.

**Pokerface** · 11-10-2005, 10:53 AM

Nintendo is the only company out there actively pushing innovation in the console world. By the standards of the article, it seems that most console gaming could be considered "dying" as well.

I worry not for my PC.

Mateo · 11-10-2005, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokerface

Nintendo is the only company out there actively pushing innovation in the console world.

Roger that. Did you see that GC game that is part RTS, part pinball? Insane.

Makes me want to part with $100 for a 'Cube.

**Iceberg** · 11-10-2005, 11:44 AM

Im toying with the idea of sending Nintendo 20 bucks with a note "Keep up the good work."

Steel_Penguin · 11-10-2005, 04:30 PM

The only innovative non-nintendo game i know of is Okami. The one where it looks like a painting on rice paper. I think it looks amazing.

Redleg75 · 11-10-2005, 04:36 PM

I am the other side of the coin there are so many games out I want to buy, I just don't have the time to play them.

Rome TW and expansion
Dawn of War Expansion
Call of Duty 2
Brothers in Arms EIB expansion
Gun
Imperial Glory

These are just a few. I am not saying these are all perfect games, just ones I want to play :-)

**Vulcan** · 11-10-2005, 04:53 PM

When you compare console games against PC games, there is one major issue. Stability. Console games don't get updates nor do they get new content or even the community effort behind them to make mods and content.

The real gaming experience isn't in the next big game, it's in the current games that are utilizing their great gameplay and adding on to it.

IMHO anyway.

ScratchMonkey · 11-11-2005, 12:45 AM

You can license an engine for $250 and distribute your game over the Internet instead of by publisher. Check out a project I'm involved with:

http://renwerx.com/

(I'm not a "creative" contributor. I'm there to make sure there's a Linux server build, and to have source access to fix any bugs that crop up.)

**RGM-79N_GM_CUstom** · 11-11-2005, 01:03 AM

Seriously if PC Gaming and Nintendo every die I am giving up on gaming. I will read or something. It would just suck so bad. I would have no point to upgrade my computer. I would cry myself to sleep everyday.

On the subject of PC gaming dying. I don't want to comment on that just yet. I don't feel it is remember NPD numbers don't include steam sales and the ammount of revenue people get from MMORPGs which for the most part is nothing but profit. I will wait til I see what Vista can do. MS is planning to push PC Gaming big time with Vista. Gamestop is helping by added PC Gaming Kiosks that use Dell XPS comps. MS also plans on advertising Vista as if it was a new console launch, plans on buying shelf space at retailers and getting the word out on PC Games. It also has been getting publishers to release more games on DVD.

THe poster of that thread really sounds like a guy that would want a DS/Rev.

Also Mateo I highly recommend getting a Gamecube. Most of the best games this gen are on it. If you need a list of games just let me know.

poe · 11-11-2005, 01:15 AM

*cups a hand to his ear* Innovation? Creativity? PC?

SPORE FTW!

Honestly. PC gaming will live as long as there is gaming. Consoles are basically trying to become computers, anyway.

And teh Cub3z0r r0xx0rz. I mean, where else can you find Donkey Konga?! Zelda, Mario, Kirby, and the wackily insane ideas their games are implemented that break boundaries in astonishing, playable, enjoyable ways!

Mateo · 11-11-2005, 01:46 AM

You know, every time someone brings up the whole PC gaming is dead thing, I think two things:

1. How much of EA, Activision, or Atari's revenue is due to PC game sales?
2. You think PC gaming is dead? Try Linux and OSX! PC Gamers have a BUFFET by comparison.

Brennus · 11-11-2005, 06:31 PM

This topic has been around since the beginning of PC gaming!

Here is a link to my last argument on this subject:

http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimat...=000441#000012

11-10-2005, 03:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
lunisicx Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ca Age: 27 Posts: 310	PC Gaming Really Is Dying I used to fight this idea that the consoles are killing PC gaming, but after the wash of feeble releases this holiday gaming season, I think it's finally coming true. I got this from broadbandreports.com forum. To read the rest of it the link is below. http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,14699959 P.S. I just want your thought from the TG peeps about this subject. __________________ [TG-5th JTF] LuNiSiCx 5th Joint Task Force 5th Joint Task Force TacticalWiki [squadl] [ma-c1][ma-c2]

11-10-2005, 10:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
Wyzcrak Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,139	Re: PC Gaming Really Is Dying Call me behind the times, but I saw stuff in AoE3 that I'd never seen before. Granted, it's Microsoft, and they have a history with me when it comes to being the first to present to me someone else's innovation and calling it their own (which means it isn't innovation at all), so it probably wasn't really innovation at all. Nothing in that forum thread makes my future as a PC gamer (with lots of people to accompany me) feel threatened. __________________ Steam Community? Add me. \| Join #tacticalgamer \| Search Results Legend \| New Posts Forum Filter \| Postbox Toggle \| Live Thread Review \| One Line Results \| Free Remote, Encrypted Backup Darkilla: In short, NS is pretty much really fast chess. With guns. Apophis: I haven't seen anyone say that SM's are better than non-SMs. Nordbomber: This is THE first server I've seen where either side can comeback from out of seemingly nowhere with the right teamwork. en4rcment: I have NEVER experienced the type of gameplay that I have found here. Nightly I am amazed at the personalities and gaming talent. Root: Welcome to TG. Feel free to punctuate your sentences correctly. Monkerz: Its gonna take all my skills to beat those boys off in the future.

11-10-2005, 10:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mateo Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 6,483	Re: PC Gaming Really Is Dying Oh noes, PC gaming is dead! I look out at the future releases and see: Neverwinter Nights 2, Prey, Spore, UT2007, a new Morrowind, an expansion to WOW, Rise of Nations 2..... That's alot of good gaming for a dead platform. This topic always comes up before a new round of console platforms arrive, and it never happens.

11-10-2005, 10:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
Pokerface Join Date: May 2003 Location: MD, USA Age: 29 Posts: 5,722	Re: PC Gaming Really Is Dying Nintendo is the only company out there actively pushing innovation in the console world. By the standards of the article, it seems that most console gaming could be considered "dying" as well. I worry not for my PC. __________________ NS Game Officer. TF2 Admin. BF2 Admin / Scripter. PM with issues. Tempus: Pokerface is nailing it right on the head. Everyone who is arguing against him is simply arguing against reality. <anmuzi> it is not permitted to have privacy or anonymity <LazyEye> yeah when I play on TG the server digs though my trash Arm yourself with knowledge: TG NS TF2 BF2

11-10-2005, 11:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
Iceberg Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Illinois Age: 24 Posts: 1,924	Re: PC Gaming Really Is Dying Im toying with the idea of sending Nintendo 20 bucks with a note "Keep up the good work." __________________ It only takes 2 bites [insert parasite] to get to the center of a meatpop. TGNS Admin \| NS Forum Moderator Digz \| NS Play Tester Natural Selection \| TGNS Primer \| Communication Awareness! Army Info: AIT - 37F @ Fort Bragg, NC Graduate AIT Oct 23rd.

11-10-2005, 04:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
Steel_Penguin Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Florida,USA Age: 20 Posts: 1,970	Re: PC Gaming Really Is Dying The only innovative non-nintendo game i know of is Okami. The one where it looks like a painting on rice paper. I think it looks amazing. __________________ _____________________ ---

11-10-2005, 04:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Redleg75 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tennessee Age: 33 Posts: 267	Re: PC Gaming Really Is Dying I am the other side of the coin there are so many games out I want to buy, I just don't have the time to play them. Rome TW and expansion Dawn of War Expansion Call of Duty 2 Brothers in Arms EIB expansion Gun Imperial Glory These are just a few. I am not saying these are all perfect games, just ones I want to play :-) __________________ "Artillery lends dignity to what would otherwise be an ugly brawl."

11-10-2005, 04:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
Vulcan Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal Age: 30 Posts: 7,346	Re: PC Gaming Really Is Dying When you compare console games against PC games, there is one major issue. Stability. Console games don't get updates nor do they get new content or even the community effort behind them to make mods and content. The real gaming experience isn't in the next big game, it's in the current games that are utilizing their great gameplay and adding on to it. IMHO anyway. __________________ TG Primer - CSS SOP's - INS SOP's

11-11-2005, 12:45 AM	#11 (permalink)
ScratchMonkey Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: San Pablo, California Posts: 4,240	Re: PC Gaming Really Is Dying You can license an engine for $250 and distribute your game over the Internet instead of by publisher. Check out a project I'm involved with: http://renwerx.com/ (I'm not a "creative" contributor. I'm there to make sure there's a Linux server build, and to have source access to fix any bugs that crop up.) __________________

11-11-2005, 01:03 AM	#12 (permalink)
RGM-79N_GM_CUstom Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Paterson, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 2,160	Re: PC Gaming Really Is Dying Seriously if PC Gaming and Nintendo every die I am giving up on gaming. I will read or something. It would just suck so bad. I would have no point to upgrade my computer. I would cry myself to sleep everyday. On the subject of PC gaming dying. I don't want to comment on that just yet. I don't feel it is remember NPD numbers don't include steam sales and the ammount of revenue people get from MMORPGs which for the most part is nothing but profit. I will wait til I see what Vista can do. MS is planning to push PC Gaming big time with Vista. Gamestop is helping by added PC Gaming Kiosks that use Dell XPS comps. MS also plans on advertising Vista as if it was a new console launch, plans on buying shelf space at retailers and getting the word out on PC Games. It also has been getting publishers to release more games on DVD. THe poster of that thread really sounds like a guy that would want a DS/Rev. Also Mateo I highly recommend getting a Gamecube. Most of the best games this gen are on it. If you need a list of games just let me know. __________________ RX-78-2 Gundam EFSF Protoype Close Combat Mobile Suit Armor: Luna Titanium Armament: 2x Beam Sabers, 2x 60mm Head vulcan guns 380mm Hyper bazooka, Beam Rifle, Beam Javelin, Hyper Hammer, Gundam Hammer, shield TG Natural Selection admin. Need anything PM me. 7th Infantry FTW!!!!! "Snob? Nah...I consider myself more of a PC Evangelist...converting the heathens to The Way." Prophaniti "Windows is like Pokemon you gotta catch'em all." kenshinsama1

11-11-2005, 01:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
poe Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Olympia, Washington (USA) Age: 21 Posts: 1,105	Re: PC Gaming Really Is Dying cups a hand to his ear Innovation? Creativity? PC? SPORE FTW! Honestly. PC gaming will live as long as there is gaming. Consoles are basically trying to become computers, anyway. And teh Cub3z0r r0xx0rz. I mean, where else can you find Donkey Konga?! Zelda, Mario, Kirby, and the wackily insane ideas their games are implemented that break boundaries in astonishing, playable, enjoyable ways! __________________ Official CS:S SOPs \| Official Natural Selection SOPs \| Official Dystopia SOPs \| CS:S Development Team \| Help Support TG \|

11-11-2005, 01:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
Mateo Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 6,483	Re: PC Gaming Really Is Dying You know, every time someone brings up the whole PC gaming is dead thing, I think two things: 1. How much of EA, Activision, or Atari's revenue is due to PC game sales? 2. You think PC gaming is dead? Try Linux and OSX! PC Gamers have a BUFFET by comparison.

11-11-2005, 06:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
Brennus Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Detroit, Mich. Posts: 103	Re: PC Gaming Really Is Dying This topic has been around since the beginning of PC gaming! Here is a link to my last argument on this subject: http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimat...=000441#000012 __________________

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Future of gaming	Rick_the_new_guy	Battlefield 2 - General Discussion	21	03-29-2007 05:13 PM
eDimensional Takes Gaming To the Next Level with Introduction of Wireless 3	Apophis	Tactical Gamer News Items	6	11-18-2004 02:40 PM
TG Ghost Recon On-Line Gaming (Basic Rules of Conduct)	Badger	Ghost Recon - Official Rules, Announcements and SOP's	0	05-15-2003 01:09 PM
Tactical Gamer Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter Online Gaming (Basic Rules of Conduct)	Badger	Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter - Standard Operating Procedures	0	05-15-2003 01:09 PM

Sponsored links

Sponsored links

Sponsored links

Sponsored links