OK, What's the deal?

catcherguy247 · 11-21-2005, 10:52 PM

I'm not sure what has been happening lately but when I try to enter the server thats almost full, when it does fill up, I am kicked. I don't recieve any message when I am kicked and I was wondering if I was being removed for a reserved spot or If something else is wrong.
I always check the server info after, and there are people just joining. I just need a little help because this is starting to get a little frustrating.
Thanks,
Catcherguy

Trooper · 11-21-2005, 10:53 PM

http://www.tacticalgamer.com/counter...ot-server.html

there you go

catcherguy247 · 11-21-2005, 10:56 PM

Yes, I read that. But I was being removed in the middle of rounds and not receving any messages

Root · 11-21-2005, 11:05 PM

Sounds like a reserved slot to me. You join a nearly full server, and then you get kicked when it *does* get full? When a reserved slot holder connects, they kick the most recent player to join.

catcherguy247 · 11-21-2005, 11:07 PM

going *poof* in middle of round make catcherguy sad

Sniper · 11-21-2005, 11:08 PM

Yeah, it sounds like reserved slot to me. I go through the same things, with no message.

Sabooya · 11-22-2005, 06:45 AM

wouldnt it make sore sense if the person who has been there the longest was kicked?

[CoFR]Bloodbane · 11-22-2005, 07:33 AM

That would make sense, possibly. It would also prevent multiple kicks of the same person. Right after you get kicked, you wait ten minutes to get back in and then another reserve slot player joins and since you are AGAIN the newest player so you get booted again. This is very frustrating so I usually just go play something else.

Is it possible to change the criteria for reserve slot kicks? If so, what are the options and is this even a consideration?

Stealth Elite · 11-22-2005, 07:51 AM

Well, everyone has to wait their turn. The person who has been there the longest got to the server first. When he/she decides to stop playing that is up to them. You just got to the server, or was the last one in line. When you are last to join, you get kicked. I think the current design is the most correct. If you don't want to get kicked, play earlier, or something.

**GhostintheShell** · 11-22-2005, 07:59 AM

I thought it was a random kick. (?) Not in fifo or lifo order.

Maybe I'm wrong though...

Root · 11-22-2005, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [CoFR]Bloodbane

is this even a consideration?

Right at this very minute, no it's not even up for discussion. The primary reason for this is that we've (the admins) got a lot of other stuff going on. Change is good, but if we end up with a constant string of changes, we'll all just get completely lost. Bring this up again a few weeks or months from now, and if there aren't more pressing concerns, we may well review the situation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostintheshell

I thought it was a random kick. (?) Not in fifo or lifo order.

It was random this time last year, but Wyz subsequently changed if to lifo.

Sabooya · 11-22-2005, 02:56 PM

Ill be sure to revive this thread on xmas

**Vulcan** · 11-22-2005, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabooya

Ill be sure to revive this thread on xmas

why don't you just get an SM for christmas if it's that important :P

[CoFR]Bloodbane · 11-22-2005, 04:58 PM

Stealth Elite, I agree that everyone should have to wait their turn. But the person who spent 10mins trying to get on a full server and then gets kicked 2 mins later because a reserver slot player joins, well he waited his turn and got booted anyway.
If you get down to it, the only ones not waiting their turn are the reserve slot holders, but then again that is their priviledge. What hopefully will be sorted out is the fairest way to determine who gets kicked. "play earlier" isnt really a solution for a lot of players with families/jobs time zone differences etc.

I think what Sabooya is saying is that if he has been on the server 4 mins and somebody else has been on for 6 hrs, maybe that person should be kicked so someone else can have a chance to play too. Im not sure if that is the right answer, but perhaps we can all have discussion at a less hectic time.

cheers

Lazarus · 11-22-2005, 07:14 PM

hmmm... this is a tough call. on one hand, it is frustrating for people to join the server and get kicked immediately, only to join again and get kicked again.

on the other hand, it's not right to kick someone who's been playing for hours and is probably a valued member of the team. Heck, it could even be a captain if we are doing a captains game.

Here is my suggestion for when this topic is brought up again:

If you arent a regular (you dont have a forum account/STEAM_ID in your profile) you will get kicked in FIFO order. If everyone on the server is a regular or SM, then the regs get kicked in LIFO order.

11-21-2005, 10:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
catcherguy247 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gonzales, Louisiana Age: 18 Posts: 82	OK, What's the deal? I'm not sure what has been happening lately but when I try to enter the server thats almost full, when it does fill up, I am kicked. I don't recieve any message when I am kicked and I was wondering if I was being removed for a reserved spot or If something else is wrong. I always check the server info after, and there are people just joining. I just need a little help because this is starting to get a little frustrating. Thanks, Catcherguy

11-21-2005, 10:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Trooper Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In my wifes house......if she says i can Age: 25 Posts: 8,640	Re: OK, What's the deal? http://www.tacticalgamer.com/counter...ot-server.html there you go __________________ that sounds like a good idea trooper. -Vulcan

11-21-2005, 10:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
catcherguy247 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gonzales, Louisiana Age: 18 Posts: 82	Re: OK, What's the deal? Yes, I read that. But I was being removed in the middle of rounds and not receving any messages

11-21-2005, 11:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
Root Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South east england Posts: 8,839	Re: OK, What's the deal? Sounds like a reserved slot to me. You join a nearly full server, and then you get kicked when it does get full? When a reserved slot holder connects, they kick the most recent player to join. __________________ BFCL TF2 league admin

11-21-2005, 11:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
catcherguy247 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gonzales, Louisiana Age: 18 Posts: 82	Re: OK, What's the deal? going poof in middle of round make catcherguy sad

11-21-2005, 11:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sniper Join Date: May 2003 Location: Memphis Age: 19 Posts: 1,724	Re: OK, What's the deal? Yeah, it sounds like reserved slot to me. I go through the same things, with no message. __________________ New Server1 IP. Read the stickies!! This is how you check your STEAMID and register it.

11-22-2005, 06:45 AM	#7 (permalink)
Sabooya Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: where it is to cold in the winter and too hot in the summer. Age: 17 Posts: 265	Re: OK, What's the deal? wouldnt it make sore sense if the person who has been there the longest was kicked? __________________

11-22-2005, 07:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
[CoFR]Bloodbane Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 33 Posts: 53	Re: OK, What's the deal? That would make sense, possibly. It would also prevent multiple kicks of the same person. Right after you get kicked, you wait ten minutes to get back in and then another reserve slot player joins and since you are AGAIN the newest player so you get booted again. This is very frustrating so I usually just go play something else. Is it possible to change the criteria for reserve slot kicks? If so, what are the options and is this even a consideration?

11-22-2005, 07:51 AM	#9 (permalink)
Stealth Elite Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cut Off, Louisiana Age: 13 Posts: 96	Re: OK, What's the deal? Well, everyone has to wait their turn. The person who has been there the longest got to the server first. When he/she decides to stop playing that is up to them. You just got to the server, or was the last one in line. When you are last to join, you get kicked. I think the current design is the most correct. If you don't want to get kicked, play earlier, or something. __________________ :: Signature removed by administration - File no longer exists at putfile.

11-22-2005, 07:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
GhostintheShell Join Date: May 2003 Location: Guelph, Ontario Age: 37 Posts: 963	Re: OK, What's the deal? I thought it was a random kick. (?) Not in fifo or lifo order. Maybe I'm wrong though... __________________ Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else thereafter. Ernest Hemingway, "On the Blue Water," Esquire, April 1936

11-22-2005, 02:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
Sabooya Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: where it is to cold in the winter and too hot in the summer. Age: 17 Posts: 265	Re: OK, What's the deal? Ill be sure to revive this thread on xmas __________________

11-22-2005, 04:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
[CoFR]Bloodbane Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 33 Posts: 53	Re: OK, What's the deal? Stealth Elite, I agree that everyone should have to wait their turn. But the person who spent 10mins trying to get on a full server and then gets kicked 2 mins later because a reserver slot player joins, well he waited his turn and got booted anyway. If you get down to it, the only ones not waiting their turn are the reserve slot holders, but then again that is their priviledge. What hopefully will be sorted out is the fairest way to determine who gets kicked. "play earlier" isnt really a solution for a lot of players with families/jobs time zone differences etc. I think what Sabooya is saying is that if he has been on the server 4 mins and somebody else has been on for 6 hrs, maybe that person should be kicked so someone else can have a chance to play too. Im not sure if that is the right answer, but perhaps we can all have discussion at a less hectic time. cheers

11-22-2005, 07:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
Lazarus Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 62	Re: OK, What's the deal? hmmm... this is a tough call. on one hand, it is frustrating for people to join the server and get kicked immediately, only to join again and get kicked again. on the other hand, it's not right to kick someone who's been playing for hours and is probably a valued member of the team. Heck, it could even be a captain if we are doing a captains game. Here is my suggestion for when this topic is brought up again: If you arent a regular (you dont have a forum account/STEAM_ID in your profile) you will get kicked in FIFO order. If everyone on the server is a regular or SM, then the regs get kicked in LIFO order.

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