Increased viewing distance in APC/Tanks

**PanzerHans** · 01-13-2006, 06:43 AM

You probably all know that you cannot see as far when sitting inside a tank or an APC as you can when you are outside. However if you turn your sights just so much that the place you need to check out is at the edges of your sights. It will then magically appear.....

MrPaladin-TPF- · 01-13-2006, 07:01 AM

yes, I usually sweep my view a little because of this

unfortunatly the engine is a little daft in the fact that it calculates view distance based on a Square around your current location...

therefore if you turn your view 45' the corner of the square will now be facing where your going... thus giving you an extra bit of draw distance...

ptegan · 01-13-2006, 10:06 AM

It's being fixed in the next patch it seems.

EyeSeePeeDude · 01-13-2006, 10:25 AM

it's an easy solution to a hard problem...

Imagine having to calculate viewpoints for a circle - hundreds of distances to calculate, whereas if you calculate for a square, you just have the 4 points...

KeithMann · 01-13-2006, 10:28 AM

Good point. They should use triangles and make it even easier.

MrPaladin-TPF- · 01-13-2006, 10:54 AM

a square if fine, just offset the angles to a diamond shape

xTYBALTx · 01-13-2006, 10:59 AM

It seems that a pentagon or better yet octagon would be perfect.

**WhiskeySix** · 01-13-2006, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by EyeSeePeeDude

it's an easy solution to a hard problem...

Imagine having to calculate viewpoints for a circle - hundreds of distances to calculate, whereas if you calculate for a square, you just have the 4 points...

but uh.. don't we have spherical view-distance outside vehicles?

xTYBALTx · 01-13-2006, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiskeySix

but uh.. don't we have spherical view-distance outside vehicles?

Not necessarily. . . it's a trick in many games that turning your view 45 degrees away from what you really want to see will give you a better look.

**WhiskeySix** · 01-13-2006, 12:43 PM

interesting... know if this is the case in bf2?

Did you guys every play Descent? (probably my favorite game of all time!)

In Descent, you could actually fly faster by going forward AND strafing (basically flying forward, but w/ the ship turned 45*)....

**P8riot** · 01-13-2006, 03:35 PM

I've noticed this effect on SF night maps when gunning on the boat.

icky · 01-13-2006, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiskeySix

interesting... know if this is the case in bf2?

Did you guys every play Descent? (probably my favorite game of all time!)

In Descent, you could actually fly faster by going forward AND strafing (basically flying forward, but w/ the ship turned 45*)....

And in virtually all FPS games until the most recent generations...

You certainly couldn't break the speed records in Goldeneye without strafe-running!

BTW, you can also see better by using your peripheral vision in real life. It isn't only in games.

Boot · 01-14-2006, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by icky

BTW, you can also see better by using your peripheral vision in real life. It isn't only in games.

Makes me wonder how many others out there get "tunnelvision" when playing. Sometimes I forget that I can see more than where my crosshairs are, especially when defending and trying to watch 2 routes at once. Then I wonder how someone knifed me in the 4ss! Doh!

I'm glad this will be fixed with the patch. It has been so annoying trying to line up a long range M1A1 shot by moving side to side until you think you have the enemy in the crosshairs.

Kilrogg · 01-14-2006, 03:55 AM

You don't know how theyll fix it though :P instead of making you see farther it will probably just make those corners go so you wont be able to use that trick

**BigGaayAl** · 01-17-2006, 08:03 AM

on mohaa i noticed this effect was absent on an lcd screen, i think, doesn't sound logical to me though

01-13-2006, 06:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
PanzerHans Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: By the PC Age: 35 Posts: 2,256	Increased viewing distance in APC/Tanks You probably all know that you cannot see as far when sitting inside a tank or an APC as you can when you are outside. However if you turn your sights just so much that the place you need to check out is at the edges of your sights. It will then magically appear..... __________________ -- VI VI VI - the number of the beast

01-13-2006, 07:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
MrPaladin-TPF- Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 142	Re: Increased viewing distance in APC/Tanks yes, I usually sweep my view a little because of this unfortunatly the engine is a little daft in the fact that it calculates view distance based on a Square around your current location... therefore if you turn your view 45' the corner of the square will now be facing where your going... thus giving you an extra bit of draw distance... __________________ "Victory without Honor, is Pointless..." "I regret that I only have 1 life per spawn, to give to my team...."

01-13-2006, 10:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
ptegan Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 77	Re: Increased viewing distance in APC/Tanks It's being fixed in the next patch it seems.

01-13-2006, 10:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
EyeSeePeeDude Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KCOS Age: 27 Posts: 114	Re: Increased viewing distance in APC/Tanks it's an easy solution to a hard problem... Imagine having to calculate viewpoints for a circle - hundreds of distances to calculate, whereas if you calculate for a square, you just have the 4 points... __________________

01-13-2006, 10:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
KeithMann Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 648	Re: Increased viewing distance in APC/Tanks Good point. They should use triangles and make it even easier. __________________ \|TG-1stMIP\|Manner 1st Mechanized Infantry Platoon (C-Team) Please donate your spare CPU cycles to help fight diseases like cancer.

01-13-2006, 10:54 AM	#6 (permalink)
MrPaladin-TPF- Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 142	Re: Increased viewing distance in APC/Tanks a square if fine, just offset the angles to a diamond shape __________________ "Victory without Honor, is Pointless..." "I regret that I only have 1 life per spawn, to give to my team...."

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xTYBALTx Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,852	Re: Increased viewing distance in APC/Tanks It seems that a pentagon or better yet octagon would be perfect. __________________ Current good song: Justice - Stress "$250,000 a year won't get me to Central Park West."

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WhiskeySix Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gillette Stadium, Section 309, Row 12, Seat 24 Age: 33 Posts: 8,279	Re: Increased viewing distance in APC/Tanks interesting... know if this is the case in bf2? Did you guys every play Descent? (probably my favorite game of all time!) In Descent, you could actually fly faster by going forward AND strafing (basically flying forward, but w/ the ship turned 45).... __________________ PoE2 Version 2.5 Overview \| Get started with PoE2 (for free!)*

01-13-2006, 03:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
P8riot Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bradenton, FL Age: 38 Posts: 2,694	Re: Increased viewing distance in APC/Tanks I've noticed this effect on SF night maps when gunning on the boat. __________________ Age of Conan: Tharashk (Taxiarchos), Thaumiel (alt), guild Ars Tactika - Cimmeria

01-14-2006, 03:55 AM	#14 (permalink)
Kilrogg Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,146	Re: Increased viewing distance in APC/Tanks You don't know how theyll fix it though :P instead of making you see farther it will probably just make those corners go so you wont be able to use that trick

01-17-2006, 08:03 AM	#15 (permalink)
BigGaayAl Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: gent, belgium Posts: 1,488	Re: Increased viewing distance in APC/Tanks on mohaa i noticed this effect was absent on an lcd screen, i think, doesn't sound logical to me though __________________ Support your right to arm bears. ~Cleveland Amory I am a kind of paranoiac in reverse. I suspect people of plotting to make me happy. ~J.D. Salinger

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