Machine gun movement..

Ben · 02-13-2006, 01:57 PM

ok, first time playing yesterday, loved it, bought it and did well.

question: when i am a machinegunner, i place the weapon and then it seems like my mouse/gun sight moves very slowly while in game while strafing left and right, up and down. With an SMG or any other weapon, my sight moves freely and smoothly.

Any ideas as to why this occurs? I want to rake left and right with the machine gun but it is way to labored and slow.

Thanks,
Ben

Root · 02-13-2006, 02:17 PM

You mean when you deploy the MG? My guess is it's an attempt at realism. Having never fired a gun, I wouldn't know.

Ben · 02-13-2006, 02:23 PM

yes, when i deploy it to fire it, it moves left and right very slowly. not realistic at all though.

Root · 02-13-2006, 02:28 PM

That's pretty much how it is in 1.3 as well.

**Strag** · 02-13-2006, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben

I want to rake left and right with the machine gun but it is way to labored and slow.

Likely this is completely intentional, so that you CAN'T rake left and right. It seems to me like a great way to balance the weapon within the context of the game so that it isn't absurdly overpowered.

Ben · 02-13-2006, 02:33 PM

oh. i simply wonder because when i am on the receiving end of the big gun it seems to follow me quite well, yet when i use it it hardly moves.

Tinker · 02-13-2006, 04:42 PM

You can solve this in 2 ways....I use broads sweeping motions with my mouse while using the MG.

The easier way is an MG bind that toggles you sensitivity between A high setting and a low setting, so that it pumps it way up whenever you pull out your MG, allowing it to move quicker.

Ben · 02-13-2006, 05:24 PM

wow, and how would a simpleton regarding computer binds like myself go about setting this up Mr. Tinker?

Root · 02-13-2006, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben

wow, and how would a simpleton regarding computer binds like myself go about setting this up Mr. Tinker?

Must....try....to.....resist....

Type kill in your console, then hit F10

(I'm sure you'll get a sensible answer from someone)

Toshido · 02-13-2006, 11:45 PM

Play balance with the MGs are accomplished by restricted fire arc and needing to deploy it. The slowed response is just a nuisance, but would have been a balancing thing. it allows a close range enemy to run out of your fire arc before you can get your gunon them.

**Vulcan** · 02-13-2006, 11:56 PM

Picking the right spot for the MG is the Key. I don't have a problem with it if i'm in the right position.

Tinker · 02-14-2006, 12:33 AM

Well I'm not the best with binds so I can't make one that toggles for you.

But you can use 2 buttons.

Bind "x" Sensitivity "a"
Bind "y" Sensitivity "b"

Where x and y are the 2 buttons you want to use; and where a and b are the 2 sensitivity settings you want to use (I think DoD:S Defaults to 5).

Now if you ever open your options menu they will be unbound so you might want to set them up in a config file. There are alot of tutorials for this as far as HL and HL2 are concerned so you might wanna check them for details.

Hope I was helpful.

Ben · 02-14-2006, 08:40 AM

Root · 02-14-2006, 09:19 AM

+rep for Tinker

Toshido · 02-14-2006, 10:07 AM

I cranked my sensitivity on thye mouse but did not notice a difference...

02-13-2006, 01:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ben Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Israel / Memphis Age: 31 Posts: 872	Machine gun movement.. ok, first time playing yesterday, loved it, bought it and did well. question: when i am a machinegunner, i place the weapon and then it seems like my mouse/gun sight moves very slowly while in game while strafing left and right, up and down. With an SMG or any other weapon, my sight moves freely and smoothly. Any ideas as to why this occurs? I want to rake left and right with the machine gun but it is way to labored and slow. Thanks, Ben __________________ A battle is dynamic, i.e constantly changing and evolving. Follow the strategy in place but never be afraid to improvise if the situation calls for it. All I ask for is communication

02-13-2006, 02:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Root Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South east england Posts: 8,839	Re: Machine gun movement.. You mean when you deploy the MG? My guess is it's an attempt at realism. Having never fired a gun, I wouldn't know. __________________ BFCL TF2 league admin

02-13-2006, 02:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ben Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Israel / Memphis Age: 31 Posts: 872	Re: Machine gun movement.. yes, when i deploy it to fire it, it moves left and right very slowly. not realistic at all though. __________________ A battle is dynamic, i.e constantly changing and evolving. Follow the strategy in place but never be afraid to improvise if the situation calls for it. All I ask for is communication

02-13-2006, 02:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
Root Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South east england Posts: 8,839	Re: Machine gun movement.. That's pretty much how it is in 1.3 as well. __________________ BFCL TF2 league admin

02-13-2006, 02:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ben Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Israel / Memphis Age: 31 Posts: 872	Re: Machine gun movement.. oh. i simply wonder because when i am on the receiving end of the big gun it seems to follow me quite well, yet when i use it it hardly moves. __________________ A battle is dynamic, i.e constantly changing and evolving. Follow the strategy in place but never be afraid to improvise if the situation calls for it. All I ask for is communication

02-13-2006, 04:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tinker Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 131	Re: Machine gun movement.. You can solve this in 2 ways....I use broads sweeping motions with my mouse while using the MG. The easier way is an MG bind that toggles you sensitivity between A high setting and a low setting, so that it pumps it way up whenever you pull out your MG, allowing it to move quicker.

02-13-2006, 05:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ben Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Israel / Memphis Age: 31 Posts: 872	Re: Machine gun movement.. wow, and how would a simpleton regarding computer binds like myself go about setting this up Mr. Tinker? __________________ A battle is dynamic, i.e constantly changing and evolving. Follow the strategy in place but never be afraid to improvise if the situation calls for it. All I ask for is communication

02-13-2006, 11:45 PM	#10 (permalink)
Toshido Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 446	Re: Machine gun movement.. Play balance with the MGs are accomplished by restricted fire arc and needing to deploy it. The slowed response is just a nuisance, but would have been a balancing thing. it allows a close range enemy to run out of your fire arc before you can get your gunon them.

02-13-2006, 11:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
Vulcan Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal Age: 29 Posts: 6,847	Re: Machine gun movement.. Picking the right spot for the MG is the Key. I don't have a problem with it if i'm in the right position. __________________ TG Primer - CSS SOP's - INS SOP's

02-14-2006, 12:33 AM	#12 (permalink)
Tinker Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 131	Re: Machine gun movement.. Well I'm not the best with binds so I can't make one that toggles for you. But you can use 2 buttons. Bind "x" Sensitivity "a" Bind "y" Sensitivity "b" Where x and y are the 2 buttons you want to use; and where a and b are the 2 sensitivity settings you want to use (I think DoD:S Defaults to 5). Now if you ever open your options menu they will be unbound so you might want to set them up in a config file. There are alot of tutorials for this as far as HL and HL2 are concerned so you might wanna check them for details. Hope I was helpful.

02-14-2006, 08:40 AM	#13 (permalink)
Ben Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Israel / Memphis Age: 31 Posts: 872	Re: Machine gun movement.. thnx __________________ A battle is dynamic, i.e constantly changing and evolving. Follow the strategy in place but never be afraid to improvise if the situation calls for it. All I ask for is communication

02-14-2006, 09:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
Root Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South east england Posts: 8,839	Re: Machine gun movement.. +rep for Tinker __________________ BFCL TF2 league admin

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Toshido Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 446	Re: Machine gun movement.. I cranked my sensitivity on thye mouse but did not notice a difference...

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