Team Kills???

[Dirtboy]

What happened to dying for killing a teammate? They were several times the other night in which I was killed and shot by my own teammates(both PCS and noobs). Im not trying to sound like a jerk, but I thought by dying for killing a teammate was a good PCS move. This will make you watch your fire and avoid throwing lousy nades! I realize that in the heat of battle it will be accidental...but it will cut down on "Spraying". I dont know if this was a such a good move. What do you guys think?

[JoshZeitlin]

I think the server is strict enough.

[Karkianman101]

The problem is that new people who just got on the server may venge slay when they run onto a pile of nades which were clearly announced. Then there may be re-venge slays, where someone TK's for being 'unjustly' slayed. And then there is the problem where one death would equal 2, and this could severely cripple a team's effort.

It has some possible good, but would be way open for abuse and as a source of trouble.

[Dirtboy]

My point was that alot of ppl need to watch there fire, instead of "spraying a room" and killing or injuring everything in sight. I don't think that this is a "strict" factor, but common sense issue. I see where Karkianman is comin from. But the fact still remains the majority of TK's are not from nades, but bullets.

[Karkianman101]

And currently I believe we have in place a deterrent... when a player shoots a teammate, damage is reflected. I think. Cause on penstock recently I accidentally shot a teammate in the back of the head with a shotgun, shot an enemy in the front of the head, both died, and I blew up.

[JoshZeitlin]

Originally Posted by Karkianman101

And currently I believe we have in place a deterrent... when a player shoots a teammate, damage is reflected. I think. Cause on penstock recently I accidentally shot a teammate in the back of the head with a shotgun, shot an enemy in the front of the head, both died, and I blew up.

If that were true, killing a teammate would most likely kill you as well. That is, unless that teammate had less health than you do.

I dont think that is true - I think there was an admin watching.

[Karkianman101]

No, as it was instantaneous. But I think it also depends on circumstance, maybe, like happening within 1 minute of the round starting or something.

[Spyder]

I've seen it happen where people TKing have died for shooting teammates. As best I understand it, it only goes off when you do a significant amount of damage in TK in a short period of time (person died while shooting me, did almost 75 health worth of damage to me before being hit by it)
Assuming that's the way it is, it's probably set that way to eliminate slaying for accidentially hitting somebody and only really effects intentional TK's (or TK's where people really, really aren't paying attention)

[9 v]

There was a an autoslay for a TK, but that was turned off quite recently as it was felt it was a step away from realism. That and if someone ran out stupidly in front of your LoF then you would be unfairly slayed. It did have the effect of making people more aware of their teammates location - especially after the introduction of the newer, harder to differentiate, models - and therefore less TK's overall, but at a price.

It still works for spawn TK's, as there's obviously no reason why anyone should be TK'ing in spawn (i think it's actually determined by the time rather than location, but i'd have to check on that.)

[Dirtboy]

9V hit it right on the button!!!

[EZKill]

I didn't like the autoslay since it wasn't realistic and could have the effect of punishing the whole team for one player's mistake.

Being TK'd doesn't bother me so much when it's someone that's playing cooperatively and makes a mistake. It's the guys from the pubs (and elsewhere) who just want the high KDR that tic me off.

But without an admin present to handle such players, I'd rather put up with the TKs than the autoslay.

EZ

[Spyder]

Well, and it's not like it takes much to get an admin onto CSS1 with a simple page admin to take care of the smacktard factor.

[Dirtboy]

OK, There was a reason why I didnt mention "Realism". Of course getting auto-killed for TK isnt real...but if you want REALISM, You wouldnt shoot your own teammates. If being in the military taught me anything is ALWAYS know where the muzzle of your weapon is at. Sure I realize that ppl run into you LoF, but there is a simple solution to that....LET GO OF THE MOUSE KEY! It aint all that hard. I really dont mean to sound like a jerk or anything, but it really is quite simple...I understand that there may be a few freak occurances, but for the most part, its your fault.