Where is the Line Between Art and Porn?

Buck Fush · 07-28-2006, 03:14 PM

Babytalk magazine recently published a side view of a nursing baby on their cover. Apparently 1/4 of the mothers that read their magazine believed that the image was inapproriate.

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"I was SHOCKED to see a giant breast on the cover of your magazine," one person wrote. "I immediately turned the magazine face down," wrote another. "Gross," said a third.

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One mother who didn't like the cover explains she was concerned about her 13-year-old son seeing it.
"I shredded it," said Gayle Ash, of Belton, Texas, in a telephone interview. "A breast is a breast -- it's a sexual thing. He didn't need to see that."

I don't care if the wench ate the apple thousands of years ago or not, breasts are primarily for breast feeding, everything else is a perk.

Evo<^|SiNz|^> · 07-28-2006, 03:18 PM

Man, is this really how sensitive our culture is to this? I swear sexuality is a more taboo subject than any other, including all forms of violence depicted in the media.

**CingularDuality** · 07-28-2006, 04:49 PM

This:

That's absolutely ridiculous. What a bunch of sick twisted people if they find that sexual in the least...

**Rincewind** · 07-28-2006, 04:54 PM

Wow, some people need to get a grip. Women that think men & boys are getting aroused over a baby feeding need to have a reality check. Thumbs up to the lactivists!

And I don't know how much this really qualifies as an art/porn debate. This is so far from porn that it goes all the way around the scale and can tap porn on the back.

SmokingTarpan · 07-28-2006, 05:21 PM

For all that the american culture is seen as "wild" and "promiscuous" when it comes to sex, we generally act like teenagers when it comes to public nudity, even in part. The reason, in my opinion, why we don't have nude beaches like they do in Europe isn't because we don't like nudity (or the time-honored excuse of protecting the kiddies), but because we (as a culture) just plain can't handle it. We see a boob and either become instantly uncomfortable or have to hoot/holler/giggle like a schoolgirl about it; there's no just ignoring it or taking it in stride.

I've had women breastfeed in front of me, both in a smaller setting such as a friend's house and in more open places such as a store grand opening. When I first saw it, I'll admit, I got a tiny bit uncomfortable because it seemed weird and was a new experience. Then I thought, "Hey, that's life," and moved on with my day.

icky · 07-28-2006, 05:28 PM

I find the topic confusing. This has nothing to do with either art or porn.

All fathers know that there is nothing sexual about the breast when it is feeding your child. The whole process has an incredible impact on your view of the human body. At least it did for me.

Drizzid · 07-28-2006, 05:32 PM

It's another example of how ridicules "polical correctness" has gotten in our society these days.

tau_neutrino · 07-28-2006, 05:49 PM

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For all that the american culture is seen as "wild" and "promiscuous" when it comes to sex, we generally act like teenagers when it comes to public nudity, even in part. The reason, in my opinion, why we don't have nude beaches like they do in Europe isn't because we don't like nudity (or the time-honored excuse of protecting the kiddies), but because we (as a culture) just plain can't handle it. We see a boob and either become instantly uncomfortable or have to hoot/holler/giggle like a schoolgirl about it; there's no just ignoring it or taking it in stride.

I've had women breastfeed in front of me, both in a smaller setting such as a friend's house and in more open places such as a store grand opening. When I first saw it, I'll admit, I got a tiny bit uncomfortable because it seemed weird and was a new experience. Then I thought, "Hey, that's life," and moved on with my day.

I agree. It's too bad that Victorian-era social attitudes still pervade our society.

**Trooper** · 07-28-2006, 05:58 PM

you know whats sad, is parents are worried about their kids seeing a boob and going all sexual on them. i dare these parents to go into a public school one day, and im sure these parents will hear and learn things about sex they dint know. Or even know their kids knew.

xTYBALTx · 07-28-2006, 06:13 PM

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I find the topic confusing. This has nothing to do with either art or porn.

Damnit, icky, you beat me to it!

**CingularDuality** · 07-28-2006, 06:17 PM

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you know whats sad, is parents are worried about their kids seeing a boob

No. You know what's sad? These aren't parents. If you can't explain a baby suckling on a bare boob to your child, regarless of age, then you're not fit to be a parent. "But my 13 year old might ask me other questions about boobs and porn!" Well, then address his concerns and find out where he's watching porn, but don't blame it on a photo of a boob being used as it was intended.

**Trooper** · 07-28-2006, 06:25 PM

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No. You know what's sad? These aren't parents. If you can't explain a baby suckling on a bare boob to your child, regarless of age, then you're not fit to be a parent. "But my 13 year old might ask me other questions about boobs and porn!" Well, then address his concerns and find out where he's watching porn, but don't blame it on a photo of a boob being used as it was intended.

I agree completely cing. Its not like the hustler at the gas station. To think breast feeding is erotic is cause for some therapy.

aeroripper · 07-28-2006, 06:47 PM

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No. You know what's sad? These aren't parents. If you can't explain a baby suckling on a bare boob to your child, regarless of age, then you're not fit to be a parent. "But my 13 year old might ask me other questions about boobs and porn!" Well, then address his concerns and find out where he's watching porn, but don't blame it on a photo of a boob being used as it was intended.

QFT

**USN_Squid** · 07-28-2006, 11:43 PM

As George Carlin said; "I'd rather have my kids see two people f*&%ing than killing each other". Who are they kidding, I bet that boob sold more magazines than they ever have.

Switchcraft · 07-29-2006, 01:44 AM

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No. You know what's sad? These aren't parents. If you can't explain a baby suckling on a bare boob to your child, regarless of age, then you're not fit to be a parent. "But my 13 year old might ask me other questions about boobs and porn!" Well, then address his concerns and find out where he's watching porn, but don't blame it on a photo of a boob being used as it was intended.

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07-28-2006, 03:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
Evo<^\|SiNz\|^> Join Date: May 2006 Location: Alexandria, VA Age: 28 Posts: 1,236	Re: Where is the Line Between Art and Porn? Man, is this really how sensitive our culture is to this? I swear sexuality is a more taboo subject than any other, including all forms of violence depicted in the media. __________________ "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country." - Attributed to General George Patton, Jr.

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Rincewind Join Date: May 2005 Location: Casting useless spells in Oklahoma. Age: 27 Posts: 2,994	Re: Where is the Line Between Art and Porn? Wow, some people need to get a grip. Women that think men & boys are getting aroused over a baby feeding need to have a reality check. Thumbs up to the lactivists! And I don't know how much this really qualifies as an art/porn debate. This is so far from porn that it goes all the way around the scale and can tap porn on the back. __________________ ~~ Veritas simplex oratio est ~~ No matter how far a wizard goes, he will always come back for his hat. --T. Pratchett <---- You know you're getting old when you rely on your forum meta-data to remind you how old you are. Required Reading for all TG sandboxers

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SmokingTarpan Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,471	Re: Where is the Line Between Art and Porn? For all that the american culture is seen as "wild" and "promiscuous" when it comes to sex, we generally act like teenagers when it comes to public nudity, even in part. The reason, in my opinion, why we don't have nude beaches like they do in Europe isn't because we don't like nudity (or the time-honored excuse of protecting the kiddies), but because we (as a culture) just plain can't handle it. We see a boob and either become instantly uncomfortable or have to hoot/holler/giggle like a schoolgirl about it; there's no just ignoring it or taking it in stride. I've had women breastfeed in front of me, both in a smaller setting such as a friend's house and in more open places such as a store grand opening. When I first saw it, I'll admit, I got a tiny bit uncomfortable because it seemed weird and was a new experience. Then I thought, "Hey, that's life," and moved on with my day. __________________ [squadl] "I am the prettiest african-american, vietnamese..cong..person." -SugarNCamo

07-28-2006, 05:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
icky Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Ottawa Valley Posts: 6,154	Re: Where is the Line Between Art and Porn? I find the topic confusing. This has nothing to do with either art or porn. All fathers know that there is nothing sexual about the breast when it is feeding your child. The whole process has an incredible impact on your view of the human body. At least it did for me. __________________ Peace through fear... since 1947!

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Drizzid Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Age: 37 Posts: 2,984	Re: Where is the Line Between Art and Porn? It's another example of how ridicules "polical correctness" has gotten in our society these days. __________________

07-28-2006, 05:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
Trooper Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In my wifes house......if she says i can Age: 25 Posts: 8,877	Re: Where is the Line Between Art and Porn? you know whats sad, is parents are worried about their kids seeing a boob and going all sexual on them. i dare these parents to go into a public school one day, and im sure these parents will hear and learn things about sex they dint know. Or even know their kids knew. __________________ that sounds like a good idea trooper. -Vulcan

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