Bunny hopping???

[Backlash-7]

I'm a little confused as to what constitutes "bunny hopping". I know it's not when you jump over a fence or something to avoid enemy fire and I do know that jumping 3 or 4 times while in combat IS forbidden. This past weekend I had several situations where I would put rounds into an enemy and he would instantly jump but it was never more than once. Usually he'd be dead before he hit the ground but sometimes not. So is one jump when you're getting shot at considered "bunny hopping"? If so then I'll start reporting them. I just don't want someone to get kicked because I made a bad call.

Thanks in advance.

Oh and I did a search to try and find this out but there were something like 10,000 entries with Bunny Hopping in the text.

[Acid]

Jumping for the sole purpous of avoiding enemy fire.

It's fine to jump over a fence to get out of the way.

[RocketPunch]

Originally Posted by Backlash-7

I'm a little confused as to what constitutes "bunny hopping". I know it's not when you jump over a fence or something to avoid enemy fire and I do know that jumping 3 or 4 times while in combat IS forbidden. This past weekend I had several situations where I would put rounds into an enemy and he would instantly jump but it was never more than once. Usually he'd be dead before he hit the ground but sometimes not. So is one jump when you're getting shot at considered "bunny hopping"? If so then I'll start reporting them. I just don't want someone to get kicked because I made a bad call.

Thanks in advance.

Oh and I did a search to try and find this out but there were something like 10,000 entries with Bunny Hopping in the text.

It should be pretty obvious who is "Bunny Hopping" especially if they are playing at our servers. I don't usually report them if I only saw them do it once, but if they have bunny hopping in their blood, they will do it over and over again.

[Backlash-7]

[quote=Acid;587636]Jumping for the sole purpous of avoiding enemy fire.QUOTE]

That's about as cut and dry as I needed it. Thanks. I guess now I'll be bombarding the admins with complaints.

[CingularDuality]

Originally Posted by Backlash-7

That's about as cut and dry as I needed it. Thanks. I guess now I'll be bombarding the admins with complaints.

As a former BF admin, can I suggest that you (and all regulars on our servers) first attempt to guide pubbies and other regulars in the right direction? It's hard for people to change their playing habits, so I'd point out their errors a few times before complaining to an admin. If they respond with rudeness, or seem unable or unwilling to follow our rules after repeated warnings, then by all means ask an admin to drop the hammer on them.

[Root]

Bunnyhopping is a technique that involves using the jump key, to make you move forwards faster. Jumping to avoid fire is usually referred to as crackjumping on most of our servers.

[Obi]

Originally Posted by Root

Bunnyhopping is a technique that involves using the jump key, to make you move forwards faster. Jumping to avoid fire is usually referred to as crackjumping on most of our servers.

I think that's just a technicality. Both terms are often used to mean the same thing, especially on games where jumping repeatedly does not increase movement speed.

Jumping simply to avoid incoming fire = bad

[Root]

Originally Posted by Obi

Both terms are often used to mean the same thing, especially on games where jumping repeatedly does not increase movement speed.

In a number of games, it DOES increase speed. In natural selection, it's even a requirement for one of the alien critters to do so, in order for them to be of any use. If I recall, CSS came with bunnyhopping initially, and 1.6 still has it. Dystopia intentionally has it for cyberspace, but the devs couldn't find a way to prevent it being used in meatspace. I beleve it works in DoD too, but not being a cheat, I don't really bother to find these things out.

[ABRA]

A single bunny hop is breaking the rules and should be dealt with(through you or an admin report) if you are certain, absolutely certain based on one jump you saw during a fire-fight, that there was no other conceivable purpose than to evade fire. If you have any doubt at all though, address it in text, like Cingular said and watch for repeat offenses before directly soliciting an admin's assistance. While I agree that you know it when you see it, a single hop, while illegal, often cannot be conclusively considered a bunny hop by itself without the certainty afforded by observing repeat offenses.

[Trooper]

Originally Posted by ABRA

A single bunny hop is breaking the rules and should be dealt with(through you or an admin report) if you are certain, absolutely certain based on one jump you saw during a fire-fight, that there was no other conceivable purpose than to evade fire. If you have any doubt at all though, address it in text, like Cingular said and watch for repeat offenses before directly soliciting an admin's assistance. While I agree that you know it when you see it, a single hop, while illegal, often cannot be conclusively considered a bunny hop by itself without the certainty afforded by observing repeat offenses.

well said, i know for a fact i have jumped when someone starts to shoot at me and it scares me. Just use your discretion and most the time once you tell someone to be careful with it they listen and are better for it

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by Trooper[SNPR]

well said, i know for a fact i have jumped when someone starts to shoot at me and it scares me. Just use your discretion and most the time once you tell someone to be careful with it they listen and are better for it

Sounds reasonable. I have some belief in that some people who do 'jump' directly after think something along the lines of "what did I just do?" and promptly quits with. If they dont, well, a simple request [as suggested] to the player responsible for it ought to be enough for them to listen.

[Rick_the_new_guy]

good post Cing.

Report bunny up the chain of command if not on teamspeak. Someone in your squad or maybe your CO will be on teampseak, then in turn they can talk to someone on the other team with with teamspeak and then somone can use VOIP and get the message to the player.

Or if you see a warning for bunny hopping by an admin, and the player can be verbally communicated to, tell them the rules and such.

Try to use the admins as your support. They would like to play also.

[P8riot]

This is, of course, in stark contrast to what I call 'Bunny Flinging'. The act of jumping (often over a wall) to avoid a nearby exploding grenade - only to go 'rag-doll' in mid-flight. Commonly heard amongst opponent squadmembers in such phrases as 'DUDE! I just Bunny Flung P8riot AGAIN!'.

[jackmacokc]

Originally Posted by ABRA

A single bunny hop is breaking the rules and should be dealt with(through you or an admin report) if you are certain, absolutely certain based on one jump you saw during a fire-fight, that there was no other conceivable purpose than to evade fire. If you have any doubt at all though, address it in text, like Cingular said and watch for repeat offenses before directly soliciting an admin's assistance. While I agree that you know it when you see it, a single hop, while illegal, often cannot be conclusively considered a bunny hop by itself without the certainty afforded by observing repeat offenses.

I somewhat agree with this...maybe it's just me, but one hop is just that - a hop. Bunny hopping by definition is more than one.

I think given a real life scenario, one could jump to avoid fire. It's the jumping up and down like a rabbit that is unrealistic, and therefore unfair (and retarded).

It's of my personal opinion that a jump is perfectly legal to avoid fire in game. Whether or not its within the rules, I don't know. But one and only one hop /me says.

That being said, making this a habit and a tactic should be discouraged. Just take your kill like a man. You'll re-spawn.

[Root]

To reiterate : bunny hopping is a method (usually (but not always) an exploit) of moving faster.

Crackjumping is jumping to avoid fire.