sitting in the corner (cs_negociator)

Kelivut · 01-20-2007, 06:48 AM

Many times on T side, I have jumped up on the wall and sat in the corner to guard the hallway to the upper hostages. Anyone in the vents can not see me, where as they could if I was on the ground, and i can still see the opening to the hostie room.

I was just wondering if this was acceptable, or not since the ledge i sit on is really small. Just to clarify, I'm talking about the corner specifically, not wallhugging all together, since in this case there would be nothing to brace yourself on and would slip off without a doubt in reality.

Root · 01-20-2007, 07:45 AM

I'm not quite familiar with where you're referring to. Can you be a bit more specific?

Kelivut · 01-20-2007, 08:06 AM

On this map most of the walls have a small little part that comes out and you can jump up on to, too small to be able to stably stand on in reality. However in a corner you could use the two walls to brace your feet on so that you could put most of your weight on to the back wall, possibly making stability on this possible, though I'm not sure of this so I am wondering whether it is acceptable to do so or not.

Priest · 01-20-2007, 12:17 PM

This one's been brought up before, it's frowned upon, and I no longer do it myself.

Zephyr · 01-22-2007, 04:01 AM

Frowned upon. No way you could ever balance yourself in a crouching or standing position on an inch thick protrusion of a wall in real life. It is simply an exploit of the game engine that gives a player a unfair advantage over his competitors and as such a violation of several parts of the TG Primer.

Case Closed.
-Zephyr

Whitetiger · 01-22-2007, 03:57 PM

Jackie Chan could do it!

No really if you think it's not possible for someone to do it that isn't a martial arts master then...you probably have cause for a " don't do that" thought. Just like seeing through walls on other maps from a ledge...most people don't carry a x-ray machine with them so...

See what I mean?

**Vulcan** · 01-23-2007, 09:16 AM

And fire an m4? Probably not.

Most likely the protrusion was put there for a graphical effect rather than a real object to use. It's a wonderful feature of the valve engine to be able to stand on a 3 inch ledge!

Kelivut · 01-24-2007, 07:54 PM

Okay then, I won't do it again, I did a search under the map name but couldnt find anything so I just made a new thread. Thanks for clearing that up.

01-20-2007, 06:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
Kelivut Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Age: 20 Posts: 46	sitting in the corner (cs_negociator) Many times on T side, I have jumped up on the wall and sat in the corner to guard the hallway to the upper hostages. Anyone in the vents can not see me, where as they could if I was on the ground, and i can still see the opening to the hostie room. I was just wondering if this was acceptable, or not since the ledge i sit on is really small. Just to clarify, I'm talking about the corner specifically, not wallhugging all together, since in this case there would be nothing to brace yourself on and would slip off without a doubt in reality.

01-20-2007, 07:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
Root Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South east england Posts: 8,839	Re: sitting in the corner (cs_negociator) I'm not quite familiar with where you're referring to. Can you be a bit more specific? __________________ BFCL TF2 league admin

01-20-2007, 08:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
Kelivut Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Age: 20 Posts: 46	Re: sitting in the corner (cs_negociator) On this map most of the walls have a small little part that comes out and you can jump up on to, too small to be able to stably stand on in reality. However in a corner you could use the two walls to brace your feet on so that you could put most of your weight on to the back wall, possibly making stability on this possible, though I'm not sure of this so I am wondering whether it is acceptable to do so or not.

01-20-2007, 12:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Priest Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 71439 Age: 19 Posts: 375	Re: sitting in the corner (cs_negociator) This one's been brought up before, it's frowned upon, and I no longer do it myself. __________________ "Shindig? SHINDIG? I'll have you know that this is a pah-tay." -Root

01-22-2007, 04:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
Zephyr Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 20 Posts: 1,647	Re: sitting in the corner (cs_negociator) Frowned upon. No way you could ever balance yourself in a crouching or standing position on an inch thick protrusion of a wall in real life. It is simply an exploit of the game engine that gives a player a unfair advantage over his competitors and as such a violation of several parts of the TG Primer. Case Closed. -Zephyr __________________ You were once like the newbie who needed a hand from above and TacticalGamer gave you it. You owe the newbie who comes after you that same outstretched hand from above on your honor as a Tactical Gamer. Tactics at TG come from trust and friendship, not meticulous detail and rigid discipline. Everyone should be assumed mature until proven otherwise. We are no clan. We are not a single game. We are mature, intelligent, and cooperative individuals. We are TacticalGamer, a community above and beyond its name.

01-22-2007, 03:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Whitetiger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tulsa OK Age: 37 Posts: 183	Re: sitting in the corner (cs_negociator) Jackie Chan could do it! No really if you think it's not possible for someone to do it that isn't a martial arts master then...you probably have cause for a " don't do that" thought. Just like seeing through walls on other maps from a ledge...most people don't carry a x-ray machine with them so... See what I mean? __________________ Although prepared for martyrdom, I preferred that it be postponed. Sir Winston Churchill British politician (1874 - 1965)

01-23-2007, 09:16 AM	#7 (permalink)
Vulcan Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montreal Age: 29 Posts: 6,847	Re: sitting in the corner (cs_negociator) And fire an m4? Probably not. Most likely the protrusion was put there for a graphical effect rather than a real object to use. It's a wonderful feature of the valve engine to be able to stand on a 3 inch ledge! __________________ TG Primer - CSS SOP's - INS SOP's

01-24-2007, 07:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
Kelivut Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Age: 20 Posts: 46	Re: sitting in the corner (cs_negociator) Okay then, I won't do it again, I did a search under the map name but couldnt find anything so I just made a new thread. Thanks for clearing that up.

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