PR not REALITY REALLY

[Yamer]

ok so crazzieee8 and i were bored the other day i was wondering "if this thing is real life i should be able to TK him with my shock paddles" "hmmm, lets try it" then all of a sudden i couldnt shock my teamie to death with paddles.... thats bf2 for ya.... i think this would be a realistic addition to .06 if this could happen... im sorry but im a paramedic in real life and if you shock someone at 360 joules when they are concious, their heart will stop... thats what shocking is meant to do is stop the heart so it can restart correctly..... hmmm /rant over

[mingmong]

Gameplay/enjoyment > Reality. Even in a reality mod.

[orion808]

Would be fun (or atleast funny) if one medic was reviving a fallen soldier and another medic came jumping over to steal the revive, only to get a teamkill on the newly revived soldier...lol

[mingmong]

That's the thing though, isn't it? It's not funny for the person being revived. The medic that revived them first is probably annoyed that his effort has been wasted. And what if the second medic gets punished?

It's one of those game features that brings only negative things to the table.

[ChernobylKinsman]

Hmm, I could have sworn you could kill people with paddles in Vanilla. (edit) It can be difficult enough to get someone revived without having to worry about TKing in the middle of it though.

[loyalguard]

Defibs in PR aren't "really" defibs anymore. From the PR Guide:

How can a "reality" mod keep battlefield defibrillators?

Defibrillators can be understood as a metaphor. When a soldier is downed in real life another soldier will drag him to cover and begin applying bandages to keep him alive until he can get to a field hospital. Unfortunately the BF2 engine cannot handle dragging. Since in PR people are not revived with full health, they need to follow the medic who revived them and get healed up much like a possible "dragging" scenario. There is no field hospital stage in PR because that will not be very fun, just as if dying deleted your account would not be fun. This system also lends itself well to the level of teamwork PR wants to encourage.

So in this sense it makes sense the defibs in game can't kill. There has been talk of one day replacing the defibs with a CPR mask or hands grabbing the player or an adrenaline shot but I'm not sure how intently it is being pursued based on priorities.

[Lith1um]

PR defib's do kill enemies. I did it the other day to a prone enemy medic who was attempting a revive.

[Sabre_Tooth_Tigger]

Ive killed with defibs on bf2, there was a pile of bodies with a live enemy prone in the middle and he got his just deserts for trying to be sneaky

[dys]

Originally Posted by Yamer

ok so crazzieee8 and i were bored the other day i was wondering "if this thing is real life i should be able to TK him with my shock paddles" "hmmm, lets try it" then all of a sudden i couldnt shock my teamie to death with paddles.... thats bf2 for ya.... i think this would be a realistic addition to .06 if this could happen... im sorry but im a paramedic in real life and if you shock someone at 360 joules when they are concious, their heart will stop... thats what shocking is meant to do is stop the heart so it can restart correctly..... hmmm /rant over

someone shocks him back to life, a split second later a thoughtful medic paddles him to death. good or bad, that'd be funny to see. 5 medics spamming shock paddle "we're losing him! he's slipping in and out, more paddle damnit! throw a bandage!"

[w.WAREHOUSE]

Originally Posted by Yamer

im sorry but im a paramedic in real life and if you shock someone at 360 joules when they are concious, their heart will stop...

I don't think they would die unless there is some underlying cardiac condition, as "most" normal hearts would likely resume a normal sinus rhythm ensuing the ED discharge and the person would regain consciousness if in fact they lost it to begin with. I don't know about the military, but the AED's we use now start at a lower voltage around 120 and progress upward on sequential failed attempts.

Location is the other factor I wonder about in this game, as most of the shock paddle kills I see involve players chasing someone down and zapping their enemy in the ass. Not sure if the current would disrupt the ventricular rhythm as much if struck in the rear or on an extremity. Maybe I can convince one of the ER residents to test this out with an "accident" to one of the medical students!

[sgt fetterman]

Loyalguard:
in one of the merc. mods I lan run, the insurgs have a adrenaline shot plus the medic bag. the adrenaline shot is used in place of the paddles.

[IOOB_583]

It may not be reality but, if it were, we would die in our task chairs as we played the game........

I am not sure the wife would come over and shock paddle me back

[Gogeta]

Originally Posted by Yamer

ok so crazzieee8 and i were bored the other day i was wondering "if this thing is real life i should be able to TK him with my shock paddles" "hmmm, lets try it" then all of a sudden i couldnt shock my teamie to death with paddles.... thats bf2 for ya.... i think this would be a realistic addition to .06 if this could happen... im sorry but im a paramedic in real life and if you shock someone at 360 joules when they are concious, their heart will stop... thats what shocking is meant to do is stop the heart so it can restart correctly..... hmmm /rant over

So your debunking the entire mod, because you cant teamkill someone with your shock paddles........ makes alot of sense.

[Morganan]

Thank god for this, but then why am I limping if this mod isn't really reality when a jeep just ran over my foot?

[dys]

let me submit my own "not reality" complaint-
dropping 4 feet and taking damage. nothing's more annoying than taking a few hits and coming out alive just to stumble on a curb and start bleeding out.