Am I breaking rules?

[DLBlue]

So last night, after getting my assault gold badge, I decided that I would work on getting my recon gold badge. I went recon, and started having a great time throwing RDX around corners and blowing people up. I think 3 or 4 rounds in a row I had 16+ kills with the RDX.

After a few maps of this, people started recognizing it was me doing the majority of blowing people up, and even another TG member started getting pissed at me. Now, know that I threw the RDX and didnt suicide myself (although, sometimes I managed to do it on accident, it was never intentional. With that in mind, sometimes I pushed the button and it switched to another RDX instead of blowing up, which just landed me dead all the same). In this time that I was RDXing the hell outta people, I was also leading my team in Lambert kills, respectfully. A few rounds I was #1 in it, but in all I was in the top 3 when it showed me that stat, and at worse it was roughly 75% of my kills from RDX and 25% from other means.

I am not doing anything wrong am I? I mean, this guy was livid with me. Pissed that I wasnt helping my team although... I was always in the top 5 for every round, and some rounds even took the top spot on the team. Additionally, I followed SL orders, took flags, etc. If there is something wrong with this, please tell me? Also, i would like to note, NOT ONCE, did I jihad a jeep. Hell, I never even RDX'ed someone in a jeep.

I was fairly certain I wasnt doing anything wrong, but if I was, please, someone, enlighten me.

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Typical strategies of last night:
- Come to a corner, throw RDX around it, blow it to clear enemies. Charge around with Lambert.
- Throw RDX over ledge and kill those beneath me (for instance, Fall of Berlin's ledge. Heck, at the end of one round I got something like 5 or 6 kills in one blow)
- Put RDX in a hallway and wait for someone to run through, blow it
- Put RDX on a flag we are losing, run, and blow it
- Put RDX in random places just to deter people from going that way (just on the floor, so people see it and go OH ****, and run the other direction)
- RDX walkers legs, and if I die in the process, instruct advanced snipers to shoot the RDX on his legs

I died a lot of times because of my own idiocy (thinking a small ledge will protect me... nope, or mis throwing it around a corner, and onto my side of the corner, and blowing myself instead of the enemy) and a lot of times due to strange bugs where I would push the button and out comes another RDX instead of an explosion or running into a group of enemies with my RDX out instead of my Lambert.


Please tell me this isnt wrong...?

[johnflenaly]

Only thing wrong I see is this should have been sent in a PM to an admin.

[DLBlue]

Originally Posted by johnflenaly

Only thing wrong I see is this should have been sent in a PM to an admin.

Ah, well I deliberately avoiding naming names, I thought that would be fine. I was also kind of curious as to the community's views on this

[MasterEditorInChief]

Well, no. You're not doing anything wrong. Using RDX to kill people is just as legal as using the Lambert. However, I feel as if there are much better and more efficient ways to gathering kills than continually using RDX in a corner. Keep in mind, racking up kills is sometimes not as important as controlling map.

[Hidus]

You were jumping around tossing rdx like a complete jackass and finished the round with a negative teamscore.

[DLBlue]

Originally Posted by Hidus

You were jumping around tossing rdx like a complete jackass and finished the round with a negative teamscore.

Two times outta 5 or 6 rounds I had a negative teamscore. I didnt enjoy killing teammates, it was an honest accident, and it happened rarely. Out of all the RDX I threw, I got maybe one or two team kills in a round? Thats like 2 team kills outta about 30 or 40 RDX. Had I gone through that many clips of my lambert I probably would have done the same, and getting team points as a recon isnt easy.

As far as racking up kills, I used it to push into places. Such as power station. There were 4 people on the power station flag at one point, i threw an RDX in and dealt with them all in one fell swoop. Had I gone in Lambert swinging, i woulda gotten killed.

To the note of jumping around, have you even tried running any place quickly? Any little bump and you stop. Hell, a little railroad line and it stops you dead in your tracks. If you are talking about that, then yes I did. If you are talking about bunny hopping, I did not do anything like that. You cant even push the button while in the air or for a few seconds afterwards. I only jumped to: A) Get over small 'walls' and get outta something quick, or B) get an RDX over a wall.

[2 Para]

Well i know many would see this as a sort of "gaming taboo" that you don't just use explosives as almost over-kill, similar to turning a corner and shooting at someone with the grenade launcher in BF2. But i dont see a problem with it, and if you are always being killed because of it then you need to rethink your strategy.

[jonan_]

Originally Posted by DLBlue

Had I gone through that many clips of my lambert I probably would have done the same, and getting team points as a recon isnt easy.

I don't know the situation but if you were helping cap flags you should have gotten some teamwork points, if you were following orders you would have gotten squad member points or maybe some kill assist points. Like I said I don't know the situation.

[machowner]

I posted in the in-game last night about all of the snipers we had on our team. I looked at the screen and more than half of our team was snipers and the other team was owning us. I only posted two comments, the first was "we don't need half of the team to be snipers" and the other was "a few snipers always helps." Some others did start to argue about it over the in-game chat.

To me, if half of the team is running sniper it just doesn't seem very TG like. You can't revive, heal, or resupply as a sniper at all. I'm not even sure how you get teamwork points as a sniper. Blowing up the UAV and stuff? Like I siad though a few are okay, even a 2 or 3 man squad of snipers is. Personally I call for one assualt sniper whenever I am running the otus.

Anyway, I really do apoligize if my two comments sparked an arguement on the chat. I didn't want that to happen at all. I just wanted to make a comment in hopes of getting guys to run more assualt/medic for revives. I was upset, our squad was trying to cap some flags to stop the bleed but we couldn't get the second flag because the first one would fall as soon as we left it.

[DLBlue]

Originally Posted by jonan_

I don't know the situation but if you were helping cap flags you should have gotten some teamwork points, if you were following orders you would have gotten squad member points or maybe some kill assist points. Like I said I don't know the situation.

I was getting points for that. As I said above, only two of the rounds did I end it in the negative with team work points.

[DLBlue]

Originally Posted by machowner

I posted in the in-game last night about all of the snipers we had on our team. I looked at the screen and more than half of our team was snipers and the other team was owning us. I only posted two comments, the first was "we don't need half of the team to be snipers" and the other was "a few snipers always helps." Some others did start to argue about it over the in-game chat.

To me, if half of the team is running sniper it just doesn't seem very TG like. You can't revive, heal, or resupply as a sniper at all. I'm not even sure how you get teamwork points as a sniper. Blowing up the UAV and stuff? Like I siad though a few are okay, even a 2 or 3 man squad of snipers is. Personally I call for one assualt sniper whenever I am running the otus.

Anyway, I really do apoligize if my two comments sparked an arguement on the chat. I didn't want that to happen at all. I just wanted to make a comment in hopes of getting guys to run more assualt/medic for revives. I was upset, our squad was trying to cap some flags to stop the bleed but we couldn't get the second flag because the first one would fall as soon as we left it.

It wasnt your comments considering they got lost in the mess and I didnt even see them

[Relmar]

As long as you aren't purposefully trying to kill your teammates and are actively killing the enemy I don't see anything wrong with it. Blow 'em to hell all you want. If you're good at it, that's a plus.

[Rali3gH]

To me if something seems border line or the rules are blurry I stay away from it. There are plenty of other servers you can play on to "work on badges".

Also, on the TG servers, the "squad score" screen is a better indication of your play than the "indiviual score" screen. If you managed to end ANY round with negative teamwork points, then you should re-evaluate your strategy.

[Lorax74]

Originally Posted by DLBlue

Please tell me this isnt wrong...?

My initial response will be yes, this was wrong. Your motivation was to achieve a badge, not further the efforts of your squad. But ultimately I guess it depends. Where was the rest of your squad and what where their objectives while you were doing this? Did you toss RDX and bunny hop away? Were you defending choke points to stop enemy advances or to just picking points where you knew you could pile up easy kills?

The reason why so many people stay on our servers once they find them is because of our devotion and dedication to teamwork. Badge hunters and point whores are usually not teamwork oriented.

[D0ubl3Hel1x]

I think if your SL doesn't have a problem with it you should be ok. If your SL calls for all assaults or you are recon you are breaking the rules of the server by not following SL orders. However, the last thing some of us want is a bunch of RDX bunny hoppers on the TG server. We can go to any public server and find that kind of gameplay.

Plus, we don't worry about badges here. We concentrate what's best for the squad and team. I only bring this up because you stated you wanted to work on your recon gold badge and that statement alone is a fairly selfish one for this server and community.