All squads need to pull their own weight.

DLBlue · 08-10-2007, 10:14 PM

Okay, this makes me madder than all get out:

That difference in score... from 1st place squad to 2nd place squad... should never happen imho. Seriously.

Edit:

What really pisses me off, was that we lost by something like 10 or 20 tickets. Argh..

**Crux** · 08-10-2007, 10:30 PM

You're right. Squad 1 shouldn't have hogged all the points! Greedy bastages!

Zoraster · 08-10-2007, 10:31 PM

While I agree with you that there's something wrong there, the point could be made without the cursing and the title. I've edited your post to something that describes the contents.

**machowner** · 08-10-2007, 11:19 PM

happens all the time. The only thing you can really do is split your squad up into two, where you take in three okay players and the new squad also gets three okay players. Of course there may not be anyone who wants to SL the new squad. So that really is the biggest problem, guys just don't want to SL so they try to join the squad with the best players on at the time.

DLBlue · 08-11-2007, 12:16 PM

Sorry, I was just really upset about it when it happened. Such a close match, and when I saw that at the end, I was just furious.

**machowner** · 08-11-2007, 12:19 PM

I don't blame you man, it is disappointing to see that at the end, although usually you already have a sense of what is going on during the match.

2 Para · 08-11-2007, 01:24 PM

Well on a good, well populated server I usually expect to have to fight for players as most often SLs will always want to keep onto the top players merely for points.

**Razcsak** · 08-11-2007, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2 Para

Well on a good, well populated server I usually expect to have to fight for players as most often SLs will always want to keep onto the top players merely for points.

Its not just SLs fighting for points, but also the idea that if people stay in the same squad, they'll naturally work better together. After a round or two under the same SL, I get better at anticipating requests and orders, as well as my squadmates. We start (generally) becoming slightly more efficient through such actions. Besides, SLs also want to hang on to the good players because the good players follow orders and are willing to not be point-whoring lone-wolfers. That's not wanting points, that's wanting a better gaming experience.

**Zhohar** · 08-11-2007, 03:21 PM

I don't know why you're ticked off mate. The only reason I'd blow my kettle is for not getting into Bellacosity's squad

There's good players and bad players. You can't force people to go under a mic-less, wit-less, experience-less SL. That's just rubbish for everyone.

And most squads stay the same throughout several rounds. There's nothing like playing a round with a TG-xx squad and getting invited into it the next round -- the people are preserved, the atmosphere, the mics, the teamwork -- it's a lot of fun.

AirTransRanger · 08-11-2007, 08:47 PM

I see this more as a testament to Bellicosity's squad leading skills. I've been on his squad a few times and always had success. He's focused and vocal about what he's trying to accomplish. Without his squad, there would have been no close match and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

DLBlue · 08-13-2007, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmckee79

I see this more as a testament to Bellicosity's squad leading skills. I've been on his squad a few times and always had success. He's focused and vocal about what he's trying to accomplish. Without his squad, there would have been no close match and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Thanks for the compliment amigo

**Crux** · 08-13-2007, 01:27 PM

It can and does get worse!

DLBlue · 08-13-2007, 01:45 PM

OMG LOL

Crux you make me smile, and I laughed out loud at work enough that I think the people in the office next to me heard.

Is it wrong to TK asshats on the server for not doing jack **** on your team?
I know its against the rules... but is it wrong?

Zoraster · 08-13-2007, 02:05 PM

to be fair, for at least half of that game we were playing with a less than half full server, so most of those guys had probably just come on.

**Crux** · 08-13-2007, 05:37 PM

Yeah I was actually just posting that in jest. Not really ragging on anyone else who was on the server. I mean you have Crux and Zoraster in the same squad. 3rd + 7th = a perfect 10! But, it was also by far the widest margin I've ever seen between squad scores before.

08-10-2007, 10:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
DLBlue Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 234	All squads need to pull their own weight. Okay, this makes me madder than all get out: That difference in score... from 1st place squad to 2nd place squad... should never happen imho. Seriously. Edit: What really pisses me off, was that we lost by something like 10 or 20 tickets. Argh.. Last edited by Zoraster; 08-10-2007 at 10:34 PM. Reason: Toning it down and making the thread title more helpful

08-10-2007, 10:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
Crux Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 31 Posts: 2,631	Re: W... T... F... You're right. Squad 1 shouldn't have hogged all the points! Greedy bastages! __________________ ....

08-10-2007, 10:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
Zoraster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 24 Posts: 1,325	Re: W... T... F... While I agree with you that there's something wrong there, the point could be made without the cursing and the title. I've edited your post to something that describes the contents. __________________ \|TG\| Zoraster \| Tactical Soccer Managing

08-10-2007, 11:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
machowner Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: TN Posts: 2,925	Re: All squads need to pull their own weight. happens all the time. The only thing you can really do is split your squad up into two, where you take in three okay players and the new squad also gets three okay players. Of course there may not be anyone who wants to SL the new squad. So that really is the biggest problem, guys just don't want to SL so they try to join the squad with the best players on at the time. __________________ \|New to TG? Start here\|*\|Become a Supporting Member\| "Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!"

08-11-2007, 12:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
DLBlue Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 234	Re: All squads need to pull their own weight. Sorry, I was just really upset about it when it happened. Such a close match, and when I saw that at the end, I was just furious.

08-11-2007, 12:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
machowner Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: TN Posts: 2,925	Re: All squads need to pull their own weight. I don't blame you man, it is disappointing to see that at the end, although usually you already have a sense of what is going on during the match. __________________ \|New to TG? Start here\|*\|Become a Supporting Member\| "Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!"

08-11-2007, 01:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
2 Para Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 232	Re: All squads need to pull their own weight. Well on a good, well populated server I usually expect to have to fight for players as most often SLs will always want to keep onto the top players merely for points.

08-11-2007, 03:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
Zhohar Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vancouver, west coast of Canada Posts: 1,351	Re: All squads need to pull their own weight. I don't know why you're ticked off mate. The only reason I'd blow my kettle is for not getting into Bellacosity's squad There's good players and bad players. You can't force people to go under a mic-less, wit-less, experience-less SL. That's just rubbish for everyone. And most squads stay the same throughout several rounds. There's nothing like playing a round with a TG-xx squad and getting invited into it the next round -- the people are preserved, the atmosphere, the mics, the teamwork -- it's a lot of fun. __________________ TacticalGamer -- 3rd Special Forces Detachment -- Zhohar

08-11-2007, 08:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
AirTransRanger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lubbock, Tx Age: 29 Posts: 184	Re: All squads need to pull their own weight. I see this more as a testament to Bellicosity's squad leading skills. I've been on his squad a few times and always had success. He's focused and vocal about what he's trying to accomplish. Without his squad, there would have been no close match and we wouldn't be having this conversation. __________________ EVE Online: McAoidh

08-13-2007, 01:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
Crux Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 31 Posts: 2,631	Re: All squads need to pull their own weight. It can and does get worse! __________________ ....

08-13-2007, 01:45 PM	#13 (permalink)
DLBlue Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 234	Re: All squads need to pull their own weight. OMG LOL Crux you make me smile, and I laughed out loud at work enough that I think the people in the office next to me heard. Is it wrong to TK asshats on the server for not doing jack **** on your team? I know its against the rules... but is it wrong? __________________ ---Bellicosity---

08-13-2007, 02:05 PM	#14 (permalink)
Zoraster Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 24 Posts: 1,325	Re: All squads need to pull their own weight. to be fair, for at least half of that game we were playing with a less than half full server, so most of those guys had probably just come on. __________________ \|TG\| Zoraster \| Tactical Soccer Managing

08-13-2007, 05:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
Crux Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 31 Posts: 2,631	Re: All squads need to pull their own weight. Yeah I was actually just posting that in jest. Not really ragging on anyone else who was on the server. I mean you have Crux and Zoraster in the same squad. 3rd + 7th = a perfect 10! But, it was also by far the widest margin I've ever seen between squad scores before. __________________ ....

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