Unified Map Marker Usage

**Barnaby** · 07-14-2007, 05:34 PM

I'm wondering if TG has a convention for the map markers and if so where is any ref post located as I'd like to read it up.

I know there is a pac for NATO map markers which uses specific markers for specific assets , way points etc.

I think it would be good to conform and standardise these a little more.

Thanks

Barnaby out

Riyker · 07-15-2007, 10:42 AM

From my experience here, this is a best of blend from what I've noticed and used.

**Barnaby** · 07-15-2007, 12:40 PM

Cheers Riyker they would seem a good set to follow.
I'm going to give them a few practice map placements now.

Sleepdoc · 07-16-2007, 08:50 PM

I wish we could get a map marker mod that did 3 things...

1. made much smaller, yet colorful markers....

2. Made the font size smaller next to markers ....

3. created a key/feature that allowed a player to cycle through making markers in a defined area disappear and reappear based on a keypress (a declutter function)

**WhiskeySix** · 07-16-2007, 09:22 PM

I have two comments:

1) The markers for friendlies should be BLUE and OpFor marks RED

2) I think that "Rally Point" mark should be reserved for enemies... there's an icon that's two arrows pointing at eachother that makes a better RP icon: -><-

NoDebate · 07-21-2007, 08:30 AM

Or the one with the flag, that's a good one for RPs.

**ANGELofDEATH** · 07-21-2007, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiskeySix

I have two comments:

1) The markers for friendlies should be BLUE and OpFor marks RED

2) I think that "Rally Point" mark should be reserved for enemies... there's an icon that's two arrows pointing at eachother that makes a better RP icon: -><-

I agree .. the "4 red arrows" marker is the default and easiest for marking the many enemy that are seen ,but cant be engaged from the squads present 20.

As stated before, it would be nice if squads would mark themselves on the map with time stamp... It will lower the number of FF incidents... Even if it saves one TK it is worth your 15 seconds to place the map marker.

Riyker · 07-21-2007, 01:19 PM

I updated the marker graphic above to reflect recent opinions on marker usage.

**WhiskeySix** · 07-21-2007, 01:42 PM

nice... except your friendly icons shouldn't be red... ideally.

John CANavar · 07-21-2007, 01:49 PM

Here is my compilation Riyker, I guess we can combine these. RP and Question mark from yours, colors, obj and ASA (Assault Staging Area) from mine and we are good to go.

**Barnaby** · 07-22-2007, 05:45 AM

Request

Is it possible for somebody to combine all the GOOD icons listed above, colour code as sugested ie BLUE for friendly and RED for enemy then make it a sticky item for easy ref.

Thanks
Barnaby

Special special request.
Can anybody mod the standard icons so that they become point and relocate. I'm no deep techy guy but as they can be quickly selected for delete could they also be selected and then relocated. As I say I wouldn't know how difficult that would be to do but it would save time and make for easier map updates.

Atomic Dog · 07-22-2007, 09:43 AM

After having used friendly "blue" markers, I have to say...I don't like em. Too much confusion on the map when differentiating between dowend vehicles and friendly LZ's. I prefer an off color like Green or Yellow for friendlies.

**SloppyJoe** · 07-23-2007, 01:10 AM

Just an idea, but how about throwing out some ideas for some basic standards for map markers?

Like, I tend to think of green as friendly, and red as enemy. Maybe blue could be armor, I dunno (what other colors are there?).

It seems like a lot of poeple use the little squares as waypoints, the down arrow or checkmark arrow as LZs, the flag as a rally point, and the big circle as a "my position is here" kinda thing. Then there are exclamations, X's, and a few others.

Anyone know if these are correlative to actual military notations? If so what do they use them for? If not, what should be use them for?

USARMY_JeonJiHyeon · 07-23-2007, 07:37 AM

For the little LZ 21 etc. squares that I place, the most important thing is to have the marker stand out against whatever background there is, so that I can quickly see it on the minimap when it comes into view. If there are multiple colors available based on the background, then I try to differentiate nearby LZs with different colors so that I don't possibly fly into different LZs.

I am against using 'down arrows' and 'flags' as LZs, because they are much too large. I prefer to use the more precise tiny square instead.

**Shiner** · 07-23-2007, 08:19 AM

Good discussion, it would make things much easier if we adopted a universal standard for markers in-game. We are also discussing in the admin area how to adopt or not adopt some of the addons that create markers not available to those without the addons. For example, users with the 6th sense can add markers that only those with the 6th sense mod active can see... that is just confusing and less than useful at the current stage.

07-14-2007, 05:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
Barnaby Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Stourport - Worcestershire -UK Age: 64 Posts: 542	Map Markers I'm wondering if TG has a convention for the map markers and if so where is any ref post located as I'd like to read it up. I know there is a pac for NATO map markers which uses specific markers for specific assets , way points etc. I think it would be good to conform and standardise these a little more. Thanks Barnaby out __________________ "I like a man who grins when he fights" Sir Winston Churchill

07-15-2007, 10:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
Riyker Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 38 Posts: 278	Re: Map Markers From my experience here, this is a best of blend from what I've noticed and used. __________________

07-15-2007, 12:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
Barnaby Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Stourport - Worcestershire -UK Age: 64 Posts: 542	Re: Map Markers Cheers Riyker they would seem a good set to follow. I'm going to give them a few practice map placements now. __________________ "I like a man who grins when he fights" Sir Winston Churchill

07-16-2007, 08:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sleepdoc Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Denver, Colorado - St thomas, USVI - St. Petersburg, florida Age: 45 Posts: 368	Re: Map Markers I wish we could get a map marker mod that did 3 things... 1. made much smaller, yet colorful markers.... 2. Made the font size smaller next to markers .... 3. created a key/feature that allowed a player to cycle through making markers in a defined area disappear and reappear based on a keypress (a declutter function) __________________ Sleepdoc My typos are legendary. I choose not to correct them as a form of unique signature (and because forum spell checkers are a hassle) : ) I actually spell just fine. But my typing skills are the pits.

07-16-2007, 09:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
WhiskeySix Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gillette Stadium, Section 309, Row 12, Seat 24 Age: 33 Posts: 8,262	Re: Map Markers I have two comments: 1) The markers for friendlies should be BLUE and OpFor marks RED 2) I think that "Rally Point" mark should be reserved for enemies... there's an icon that's two arrows pointing at eachother that makes a better RP icon: -><- __________________ *PoE2 Version 2.5 Overview \| Get started with PoE2 (for free!)*

07-21-2007, 08:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
NoDebate Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kris Kringle's Midwest Vaction House Posts: 248	Re: Map Markers Or the one with the flag, that's a good one for RPs. __________________ "Courage is being scared to death but saddlin' up anyways." ~John Wayne

07-21-2007, 01:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
Riyker Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 38 Posts: 278	Re: Map Markers I updated the marker graphic above to reflect recent opinions on marker usage. __________________

07-21-2007, 01:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
WhiskeySix Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gillette Stadium, Section 309, Row 12, Seat 24 Age: 33 Posts: 8,262	Re: Map Markers nice... except your friendly icons shouldn't be red... ideally. __________________ *PoE2 Version 2.5 Overview \| Get started with PoE2 (for free!)*

07-21-2007, 01:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
John CANavar Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 3,405	Re: Map Markers Here is my compilation Riyker, I guess we can combine these. RP and Question mark from yours, colors, obj and ASA (Assault Staging Area) from mine and we are good to go.

07-22-2007, 05:45 AM	#11 (permalink)
Barnaby Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Stourport - Worcestershire -UK Age: 64 Posts: 542	Re: Map Markers Request Is it possible for somebody to combine all the GOOD icons listed above, colour code as sugested ie BLUE for friendly and RED for enemy then make it a sticky item for easy ref. Thanks Barnaby Special special request. Can anybody mod the standard icons so that they become point and relocate. I'm no deep techy guy but as they can be quickly selected for delete could they also be selected and then relocated. As I say I wouldn't know how difficult that would be to do but it would save time and make for easier map updates. __________________ "I like a man who grins when he fights" Sir Winston Churchill Last edited by Barnaby; 07-22-2007 at 06:14 AM.

07-22-2007, 09:43 AM	#12 (permalink)
Atomic Dog Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 31 Posts: 4,070	Re: Map Markers After having used friendly "blue" markers, I have to say...I don't like em. Too much confusion on the map when differentiating between dowend vehicles and friendly LZ's. I prefer an off color like Green or Yellow for friendlies. __________________ \| ArmA SOPs \| PCS SOPs \| TG Primer \| 4th Wiki \| Ikariam Info: Mothership \| Parliament \| Chocolate City \| Saint George

07-23-2007, 01:10 AM	#13 (permalink)
SloppyJoe Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 2,210	Map Markers - Standards? Just an idea, but how about throwing out some ideas for some basic standards for map markers? Like, I tend to think of green as friendly, and red as enemy. Maybe blue could be armor, I dunno (what other colors are there?). It seems like a lot of poeple use the little squares as waypoints, the down arrow or checkmark arrow as LZs, the flag as a rally point, and the big circle as a "my position is here" kinda thing. Then there are exclamations, X's, and a few others. Anyone know if these are correlative to actual military notations? If so what do they use them for? If not, what should be use them for? __________________ . Serving the [4th Force Recon] since June 2007 [Game rules, announcements, and SOPs ][ Armed Assault ][ Counter-Strike Source ][ Call of Duty ] "The success of what we do depends upon people valuing the team over themselves." - Wulfyn

07-23-2007, 07:37 AM	#14 (permalink)
USARMY_JeonJiHyeon Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 66	Re: Map Markers - Standards? For the little LZ 21 etc. squares that I place, the most important thing is to have the marker stand out against whatever background there is, so that I can quickly see it on the minimap when it comes into view. If there are multiple colors available based on the background, then I try to differentiate nearby LZs with different colors so that I don't possibly fly into different LZs. I am against using 'down arrows' and 'flags' as LZs, because they are much too large. I prefer to use the more precise tiny square instead.

07-23-2007, 08:19 AM	#15 (permalink)
Shiner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Age: 30 Posts: 2,251	Re: Map Markers - Standards? Good discussion, it would make things much easier if we adopted a universal standard for markers in-game. We are also discussing in the admin area how to adopt or not adopt some of the addons that create markers not available to those without the addons. For example, users with the 6th sense can add markers that only those with the 6th sense mod active can see... that is just confusing and less than useful at the current stage. __________________

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