Evil Koala

I didnt even know Domination was done. I've been away from ArmA waiting for more missions and mods to be released. While Evo and co-op can be great fun, I got burnt out on it and dont have much interest for it anymore.

The few times I've logged into TS, I've seen only a handfull of people playing Evo as well.. Maybe we need an event or something to get everyone on at once that wants to play Domination.

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tHa_KhAn

Different domination Koala, not Shiner's TvT....a COOP featuring the allied army. Kind of like Evo with Random objectives. Very much like the latest(or original version) with paratrooper reinforcements and things like that. Plus secondary objectives that too randomly get added.

I think Gillespie might have hit the problem. Everyone who suggests doing one or the other has not suggested doing both. Why? Is the leadership? Does everyone feel that Evo doesn't require as much leadership so everyone joins that? Or is it that server, everyone feels the need for leadership doesn't apply? I am just trying to figure out why those who do not like Evo, do not play Domination without an invitation? Are the instructions for server controls not easy enough to find? As of right now you can do both, yet that seems to bother people more than doing one or the other.

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Insanatrix

i think leadership is a factor in why people play on evo more, because with evo you can go into a town and just start blasting away if you want to. domination is alot harder because most of the objectives are created for a team or squad effort. stuff like ambushing a convoy or stealing trucks out of a full town of ai. also the evo server has generally been like the meeting place, just hop in say hi and either talk about squading up or hitting a town or whatever you wanna do. i think alot of it is that people are just used to hopping on the evo server and doin their thing, and trying to get squads goin.

Switch

Evo is a mainstay... it will just take people a while to move on.

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I levy for a poll.

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Gillespie

Too soon for a poll, I would argue. The admin team is fiddling around with Evolution Red/Blue, testing things, changing things, etc, etc. Once Evo R/B is released onto the server, we can compare the two missions.

I envision Domination staying on the COOP server, available for those teams that want to play it, and Evo R/B becoming the new mainstay. The changes are - in my opinion - quite exciting. It may just alleviate the "burnt-out" feelings everyone (including myself, to an extent) has towards Evolution v3.0. But hey... don't take my word for fact. I'm not the boss.

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Domination to me is Evo on steroids. There's less time coordinating and the objectives are random.

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tHa_KhAn

Red and Blue has more of that. The only difference is that in Evo the player has of the choice objective/side mission and Domination it pops up on screen automatically.

Some people enjoy the focus and some people enjoy the freedom. I will point out that I think the focus of Domination can help some people lead(and it is more required) while the freedom of Evo can cause a little apprehension since more organizational and leadership skills are required for the overall.

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jex

The trouble with leaving domination on the public server is that it can be changed. If I play in the morning and leave for a few hours, intending to come back someone might be playing another mission. Also Domination is like Evo in a way - taking towns. Why is more leadership needed? You don't have to do the side missions, you can jump in - just don't choose the leadership spot if you don't wish to lead. Everyone should have a go at leading though, leaving it to a few isn't that fair since regular SL'ers don't always want the effort of SL'ing.

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tHa_KhAn

This is what I was getting at. I know you'll step up when needed to SL, but I also know sometimes it's just more fun to just be the soldier.

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JAMerica

Personally, R-B Evo is going to have to be far more novel than adding a buggy HALO script, and Arty before I'll spend a lot of time with it. I haven't played it yet so I'll reserve final judgement, but I hope it's not the "go to city A -> sneak in and satchel radio tower -> mop-up city A -> go to city B" rinse and repeat.

Domination is a nice change as it forces people to work together because it only has one major objective active at a time (and they are not linear), there is not a base full of toys to play with (well at some point, you gain access to things by doing side missions), and people can't recruit AI (I find the method of clearing cities by sending wave after wave of suicidal AI very un-TG).

Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's necessarily an either/or situation (maybe 2 days on, 3 days off?)....but really everyone and their dog will have an Evo server up. This may be an opportunity for TG to provide an alternative.

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jex

I like the idea of mixing it too - that way it's not always Evo and similarly, not always Domination. The side missions in Evo aren't really available to you though until all the cities are done because we can't travel over a AAA infested map or risk killing the server by activation towns.

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tHa_KhAn

Has anyone checked on this in Evo R&B, it would be interesting to know if the missions are better placed based on AAA coverage.

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loyalguard

I will double check when I get home, but, If I recall correctly from my testing, the AAA zones are fairly "robust" in Evo R+B.

That being said, there may be adjustments we can make that addreses one or both of the factors Jex mentioned. On the former, we might be able to tweak the random positioning or number of Shilkas for each town to make manevuering easier. On the latter, even if a town is activated it might be possible to deactivate within a short period if there is no sustained presence and avoid extra AI-related server lag.

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Switch

I think the most fun can be had doing missions when no cities have been cleared. Pilots need to plan out routes and fly low, infy know they only have one shot, and the atmosphere is far more tense since you're often operating on the border of enemy territory or watching a target move through a city. It has a sense of urgency, i prefer that to clearing cities, which gets pretty redundant.

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That noob who ran over the mine.
That noob who TK'd me with a sniper rifle.
That noob who hit that APC at 300m with light AT! Our APC...