4 Short Videos (Swimming, Building Destruction, ...) - Page 2

**dawolf** · 10-20-2006, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by John CANavar

Obi, how much do you know about squad system in ArmA? Although I've been watching this closely, I have somewhat very limited info. Will there be inter-squad comm channels?

OFP had "general", "team", "vehicle" and "squad" VOIP channels, I wouldnt think they removed any of them.

John CANavar · 10-20-2006, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dawolf

OFP had "general", "team", "vehicle" and "squad" VOIP channels, I wouldnt think they removed any of them.

Thanks Dawolf... I missed the boat on OFP's MP part and didnt know there was a "squad comm" channel to let the SLs communicate with each other.

Bodofooko · 10-20-2006, 01:46 PM

Cool videos. But did anyone else think the "dynamic destruction" looked kinda silly. I mean they could have slowed the fall rate and added a bit more rubble. It just looks the the building is falling through the earth. Oh well, at least they are destructible.

Obi · 10-20-2006, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by John CANavar

Obi, how much do you know about squad system in ArmA? Although I've been watching this closely, I have somewhat very limited info. Will there be inter-squad comm channels?

As far as I know it will be the same as in OpFlash. Global/Team/Squad/Vehicle channels.

I'll try and find the source but I think I read this a very long time ago. There will definitley be VOIP but I cannot find solid evidence that you can use VOIP in different channels. IMO they would have to allow intersquad comms because there could be hundereds of players on a server at any one time.

boudreux · 10-20-2006, 11:47 PM

The animation for the building destructino is a placeholder, from what I've read on the official forums.

Rick-the-sorta-new-guy, glad you have interest in Arma. There will be multiplayer modes for every sort of player. Between city deathmatches and Capture the island games that stretch across the entire 400km2 island, it should absolutely amazing.

Vic · 10-21-2006, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by John CANavar

Good question.

I have been thinking about it. I have to start from a reference point and I will start with two important questions:

Why Red Orchestra failed? and

Why BF2 worked out very well?

To be honest, failure of RO and even worse, KIA status of OFP are not good signs. These dont tell us that ArmA will fail here but no one can deny the fact that these indicate what majority of TG prefers to play...or not to play.

You should consider the fact that many TG-ers came here with the BF2 wave (a mainstream game by definition) - heck, even I did. Therefor most might not have been interested in niche games yet (and games like RO, SWAT and OFP are just that) or even aware of their existence and potential.
Take RO for example: WW2 based, multiplayer only, (almost) Steam only, steep learning curve, high realism, hard to play in an organized way without a dedicated team etc. You have to like/tolerate/be willing to try all of these factors in order to give the game a chance. Even then, you might not find playing partners or might not even be aware that the game exists.
Or OFP: a game way before of its time (I tried to play its demo in Quake style back in 2001 when it appeared and abandoned it after half an hour), many bugs at release, again steep learning curve, niche genre and quite closed community (mil-sim fans), huge difficulties in organizing multiplayer games (no join-in-progress; once dead, you're out), currently graphically outdated out-of-the-box (although heavily enhanced by community; the huge number of mods combinations might also be a drawback) and hard to find.

Long story short, most community members might only need to be educated and guided towards these. On this note, the best promoting method I've seen were the rich, detailed, passionate, media-supported AARs on dslyexci's website which made me very eager to give OFP another chance. Maybe front page promotions of this kind of reports might have the same effect for ArmA?

John CANavar · 10-21-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stilpu

Maybe front page promotions of this kind of reports might have the same effect for ArmA?

Will definitely do. But more important than that, community needs "Playing Guides"; How to play a game like RO and ArmA as a squad? What are some simple organizational procedures you can use for cohesion and structure in-game?

A game like RO assumes that an organized unit is entering the battlefield. Reality is quite different.

Filling the gap and bringing order to the chaos are upto the self-motivated and active leaders/organizers and enthusiastic/serious community members.

Rick_the_new_guy · 10-23-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Obi

This game will be very much a sim. Character movement, weapons, vehicles, health etc will be pretty realistic. The original game, Operation Flashpoint, was hailed as the best soldier sim ever made and the developers want to recreate that feeling in this game.

There are a few connections with BF2 in respects to all the vehicles you can use but the game is much less arcade-like. ArmA will be much more realistic than BF2 and will probably be more 'intense' bceause of the greater punishments for being killed (no respawns on some gametypes).

There will be a variety of gametypes like Co-op, capture the flag, search and destroy, basic deathmatches etc. There is another gametype called "Capture the Island" which I am looking forward to. Imagine BF2 on a much more massive scale. The control points are villages dotted all over the island.

There will also be many more players on a single server than in BF2. Oh, I nearly forgot, there is a squad system built into ArmA so squads can easily communicate with each other.

Thanks for the sit-rep.

"Imagine BF2 on a much more massive scale."
Done!

I am liking it more and more.

Makarov · 10-23-2006, 02:42 PM

I was really disappointed RO never took off with TG. I've been playing it since Beta 1.0 several years ago and I thought for sure this realistic style WWII game would be right up TGs alley. Unfortunately it was not accepted by the masses. I really hope ArmA has a better chance. I loved OFP but the inability to join a multiplayer game in progress is what killed it for many. It looks like ArmA has all the right features to be a TG hit...if the players accept it that is.

BTW, that night battle video looks incredible!

Rick_the_new_guy · 10-23-2006, 10:16 PM

Here are some screen shots.

http://www.bis-ingame.net/gallery,li...m-release.html

I really like

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Rick_the_new_guy · 10-26-2006, 10:04 PM

By the true gods!! this thing is a sim.

After checking out this link and looking at new pic on the right, I feel a little intmidated. I sort of know what a Azimuth is from reading books on the 101st Division's LRRP, but I do not know what to do with it.

Being a civilian puke, will I need to study up on some stuff before starting this game?

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http://www.bis-ingame.net/gallery,li...m-release.html

FriedFish · 10-26-2006, 11:33 PM

Rick, I believe this is the page you meant to link:

http://www.bis-ingame.net/gallery,li...m-release.html

The new shot that has an azimuth in it is actually a shot of the mission editor.

Rick_the_new_guy · 10-26-2006, 11:39 PM

Thanks Champ.

you know, this thread has a lot of members from the summer of 2005.

I trust BF2 caused this boom or was it OFP?

**Steiner** · 10-30-2006, 07:35 AM

Oh, darn...My girlfriend will so punish me when I bring home yet an other game like this. How ever, looking at the available info and screenies, the game looks awesome. Especially the terrain and the urban enviroment.

I have one concern though. With maps being able to be so huge, will they even be playable unless there is a very high number of players on the server(s)?

Rick_the_new_guy · 10-30-2006, 08:21 AM

Greetings Steiner,

That is a good question. Being a sim, I'd wager that is how it is in Real Life sometimes with a skirmish and such. Having 0 experiance points with such a game, I really do not know what to tell you.

I just hope you can see much farther in BF2, because in RL I'd say action takes place much farther away when not in a town (suburb figthing)
Expect, I'll be there.

10-20-2006, 01:46 PM	#18 (permalink)
Bodofooko Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Oklahomawherethewindgoes whippingthroughtheplains Age: 25 Posts: 492	Re: 4 Short Videos (Swimming, Building Destruction, ...) Cool videos. But did anyone else think the "dynamic destruction" looked kinda silly. I mean they could have slowed the fall rate and added a bit more rubble. It just looks the the building is falling through the earth. Oh well, at least they are destructible. __________________ I read all of Rick's post, and all I got was this lousy sig.

10-20-2006, 11:47 PM	#20 (permalink)
boudreux Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bloomington, IL Age: 26 Posts: 1,146	Re: 4 Short Videos (Swimming, Building Destruction, ...) The animation for the building destructino is a placeholder, from what I've read on the official forums. Rick-the-sorta-new-guy, glad you have interest in Arma. There will be multiplayer modes for every sort of player. Between city deathmatches and Capture the island games that stretch across the entire 400km2 island, it should absolutely amazing.

10-23-2006, 02:42 PM	#24 (permalink)
Makarov Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 41 Posts: 130	Re: 4 Short Videos (Swimming, Building Destruction, ...) I was really disappointed RO never took off with TG. I've been playing it since Beta 1.0 several years ago and I thought for sure this realistic style WWII game would be right up TGs alley. Unfortunately it was not accepted by the masses. I really hope ArmA has a better chance. I loved OFP but the inability to join a multiplayer game in progress is what killed it for many. It looks like ArmA has all the right features to be a TG hit...if the players accept it that is. BTW, that night battle video looks incredible!

10-23-2006, 10:16 PM	#25 (permalink)
Rick_the_new_guy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 29 Posts: 1,789	Re: 4 Short Videos (Swimming, Building Destruction, ...) Here are some screen shots. http://www.bis-ingame.net/gallery,li...m-release.html I really like 53 60 16 19 33 38 41 48 91 __________________ (PO3) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Squad Member (CPO) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Squad Leader (LCDR) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Commander Squad Member pledge to their SL:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...ad-leader.html Squad Leader pledge to their team:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...r-platoon.html Commander pledge to their SL:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...d-leaders.html

10-26-2006, 10:04 PM	#26 (permalink)
Rick_the_new_guy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 29 Posts: 1,789	Re: 4 Short Videos (Swimming, Building Destruction, ...) By the true gods!! this thing is a sim. After checking out this link and looking at new pic on the right, I feel a little intmidated. I sort of know what a Azimuth is from reading books on the 101st Division's LRRP, but I do not know what to do with it. Being a civilian puke, will I need to study up on some stuff before starting this game? . http://www.bis-ingame.net/gallery,li...m-release.html __________________ (PO3) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Squad Member (CPO) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Squad Leader (LCDR) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Commander Squad Member pledge to their SL:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...ad-leader.html Squad Leader pledge to their team:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...r-platoon.html Commander pledge to their SL:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...d-leaders.html

10-26-2006, 11:33 PM	#27 (permalink)
FriedFish Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 928	Re: 4 Short Videos (Swimming, Building Destruction, ...) Rick, I believe this is the page you meant to link: http://www.bis-ingame.net/gallery,li...m-release.html The new shot that has an azimuth in it is actually a shot of the mission editor.

10-26-2006, 11:39 PM	#28 (permalink)
Rick_the_new_guy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 29 Posts: 1,789	Re: 4 Short Videos (Swimming, Building Destruction, ...) Thanks Champ. you know, this thread has a lot of members from the summer of 2005. I trust BF2 caused this boom or was it OFP? __________________ (PO3) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Squad Member (CPO) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Squad Leader (LCDR) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Commander Squad Member pledge to their SL:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...ad-leader.html Squad Leader pledge to their team:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...r-platoon.html Commander pledge to their SL:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...d-leaders.html

10-30-2006, 07:35 AM	#29 (permalink)
Steiner Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 29 Posts: 686	Re: 4 Short Videos (Swimming, Building Destruction, ...) Oh, darn...My girlfriend will so punish me when I bring home yet an other game like this. How ever, looking at the available info and screenies, the game looks awesome. Especially the terrain and the urban enviroment. I have one concern though. With maps being able to be so huge, will they even be playable unless there is a very high number of players on the server(s)? __________________ \|TG-6th\|Steiner Can't work out how to have several different images [such as banners and ribbons] in the signature, so I will drop that project for now... Caesar counted on his veteran Gaul legions. Napoleon had his Old Guard. Queen Victoria was well served by the Cold Stream Guards. Tactical Gamer can always rely on the 6th Devil's Brigade. "-He has a wife, you know. Do you know what she's called? 'Incontinentia'... Incontinentia Buttocks."

10-30-2006, 08:21 AM	#30 (permalink)
Rick_the_new_guy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 29 Posts: 1,789	Re: 4 Short Videos (Swimming, Building Destruction, ...) Greetings Steiner, That is a good question. Being a sim, I'd wager that is how it is in Real Life sometimes with a skirmish and such. Having 0 experiance points with such a game, I really do not know what to tell you. I just hope you can see much farther in BF2, because in RL I'd say action takes place much farther away when not in a town (suburb figthing) Expect, I'll be there. __________________ (PO3) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Squad Member (CPO) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Squad Leader (LCDR) Marcinko_R. (BF2 PR .509) Commander Squad Member pledge to their SL:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...ad-leader.html Squad Leader pledge to their team:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...r-platoon.html Commander pledge to their SL:http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlef...d-leaders.html

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