Manners Huh

**Barnaby** · 08-25-2007, 07:49 PM

What gives with the "out of the blue" server re-sets.

I find it annoying that I can be working through a map then without any warning the server just gets re-set.

This of course means we have to start al over again and at Private rank too.

Is there somewhere these times for re-sets are shown or is it just done by an admin without any thought for those playing.

What's difficult for an admin to just prompt those playing or even better agree a joint suitable time for this to be done.

Any chance an admin can elucidate here please.

I f you need to check the logs this happened about 15mins past midnight here in the UK.

**Gogeta** · 08-25-2007, 08:08 PM

NO!! I was hoping to get home tonight and finish off the map!!!! D: Im sick of paraiso, somato, cayo ...

=Sarc= · 08-25-2007, 08:54 PM

I think there was going to be a reset tomorrow before the scheduled event (before it was cancelled). I don't know why but admins said the Evo server would be down during that period.

Good point though. It sucks having to start all over and relying on others to get kitted out with locked kits.

**TheBigC** · 08-25-2007, 10:07 PM

The Evo server will remain up tommorow due to no event. As for the people restarting the mission, it has now been fixed so only a Admin can restart Evolution.

Normal voting will remain in effect for the CoOp server.

**ANGELofDEATH** · 08-25-2007, 11:12 PM

I really dont think the restarts are only on the ArmA servers, The PoE keeps crashing also(at least once a day).. most of the TG servers are on one server hub in Virginia.

**TheBigC** · 08-25-2007, 11:28 PM

The server is solid, there has been no interuptions of service as far as I can tell. ArmA is o a different server than any other games here, so it is pretty good about not crashing.

**ANGELofDEATH** · 08-26-2007, 10:19 AM

I said that because the last 3 times the Evo server crashed, I went down to the 5th TS channel to find that the PoE server had crashed also. Im sure they are seperate servers, but if the hub looses power or flakes out then all the servers will.

curtagain · 08-26-2007, 11:25 AM

I concur although we were attempting to make it through Black Sword 8 man coop and the server reset 20 to 40 minutes into the mission 3 times. We assumed this was the mission causing it (or a admin unsatisfied with the way the round was going?)but I've been on the EVO server and it's happened unexpectedly there also. Very annoying to invest the time and to feel like a pion as server resets!

jex · 08-26-2007, 11:27 AM

Is this server crashes or people logged in as admin restarting it?

**TheBigC** · 08-26-2007, 11:48 AM

People that logged in as a admin.

So blame your peers!! But like I said before, that option has been limited now.

**tHa_KhAn** · 08-26-2007, 02:53 PM

Not all apparent restarts are a result of a malicious admin. With the server up 24/7 someone logged in after the majority have left, may not want 8 hours of night, so the server gets reset. Also, the mission is buggy to begin with. If you see someone logged in as admin and then the server resets, ask them about it.

**Barnaby** · 08-26-2007, 03:32 PM

Just to fine tune last night's reset information as I witnessed it and replying to KhAn.

There were 7-8 of us having been working our way through the towns.
At about 00.15 AM GMT the server got reset/crashed.
AT no time did any ADMIN say the server was about to be reset.

I don't think even as you KaHn suggest that this was due to the 24/7 running of the server. An ADMIN should not just reset without informing those active on the server of his need to do so and that should not be just because he doesn't like the game state/style /map being played.

BigC seems to be saying it was an ADMIN that reset the server at this time and that now going forward tighter controls are being applied so this shouldn't occur again. Good!

I still do find it incredible that whoever did this could be so selfish.
I didn't bother to re-connect after this not just because of the reset but more because of the manner in which it was done.

I am a Supporting Member and did think TG was a great find, but I do expect to be treated with more respect than happened last night.

Maybe I have mis-understood how TG runs but surely it is for the benifit of all and not for just a select few.

boudreux · 08-26-2007, 03:54 PM

Barnaby, you really do get your pants in a bunch often.

No ArmA admins reset it. We have to be logged into the game to restart the mission. It is very possible the buggy Evo mission reset itself. Maybe the moons were aligned just so.

Please quit accusing and threatening. thanks.

**peardog** · 08-26-2007, 04:32 PM

I don't think an admin would have or could have reset it.. unless they were Logged into the game at the time. There are many times when C wants to make changes to the server or needs the Box reset..and will not do it when it is active. Plus.. Only a handful of the Admins have box access... so if it was shutdown and restarted..then look to a server/box failure (or the MS updates automatically restarted the server etc..)
I would look and see who was playing at the time first and foremost.

Atomic Dog · 08-26-2007, 04:33 PM

I think the "admins" that BigC were referring to were those types of admins who are voted in by a player vote to change maps, restart servers, etc. Not to be confused with the TG Appointed Admins like Boudreux and Khan.

08-25-2007, 07:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
Barnaby Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Stourport - Worcestershire -UK Age: 64 Posts: 542	Manners Huh What gives with the "out of the blue" server re-sets. I find it annoying that I can be working through a map then without any warning the server just gets re-set. This of course means we have to start al over again and at Private rank too. Is there somewhere these times for re-sets are shown or is it just done by an admin without any thought for those playing. What's difficult for an admin to just prompt those playing or even better agree a joint suitable time for this to be done. Any chance an admin can elucidate here please. I f you need to check the logs this happened about 15mins past midnight here in the UK. __________________ "I like a man who grins when he fights" Sir Winston Churchill

08-25-2007, 08:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Gogeta Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Statesboro, GA Age: 31 Posts: 3,302	Re: Manners Huh NO!! I was hoping to get home tonight and finish off the map!!!! D: Im sick of paraiso, somato, cayo ... __________________ *\|TG-4th\| Gogeta*

08-25-2007, 08:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
=Sarc= Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 4,494	Re: Manners Huh I think there was going to be a reset tomorrow before the scheduled event (before it was cancelled). I don't know why but admins said the Evo server would be down during that period. Good point though. It sucks having to start all over and relying on others to get kitted out with locked kits. __________________ JO Guides & Tutorials Team Element - It's who you game with.

08-25-2007, 10:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
TheBigC Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Around Age: 36 Posts: 3,032	Re: Manners Huh The Evo server will remain up tommorow due to no event. As for the people restarting the mission, it has now been fixed so only a Admin can restart Evolution. Normal voting will remain in effect for the CoOp server. __________________ The Meek shall inherit the earth..... after we're through with it! The Wounded Warrior Project, help support my friends

08-25-2007, 11:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
ANGELofDEATH Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Las Cruces, NM Age: 38 Posts: 675	Re: Manners Huh I really dont think the restarts are only on the ArmA servers, The PoE keeps crashing also(at least once a day).. most of the TG servers are on one server hub in Virginia. __________________ theeANGELofDEATH -F5-ANGEL Sarcasm is just another free service I offer COD4 text binds

08-25-2007, 11:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
TheBigC Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Around Age: 36 Posts: 3,032	Re: Manners Huh The server is solid, there has been no interuptions of service as far as I can tell. ArmA is o a different server than any other games here, so it is pretty good about not crashing. __________________ The Meek shall inherit the earth..... after we're through with it! The Wounded Warrior Project, help support my friends

08-26-2007, 10:19 AM	#7 (permalink)
ANGELofDEATH Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Las Cruces, NM Age: 38 Posts: 675	Re: Manners Huh I said that because the last 3 times the Evo server crashed, I went down to the 5th TS channel to find that the PoE server had crashed also. Im sure they are seperate servers, but if the hub looses power or flakes out then all the servers will. __________________ theeANGELofDEATH -F5-ANGEL Sarcasm is just another free service I offer COD4 text binds

08-26-2007, 11:25 AM	#8 (permalink)
curtagain Join Date: May 2007 Location: Upstate N.Y. Age: 45 Posts: 127	Re: Manners Huh I concur although we were attempting to make it through Black Sword 8 man coop and the server reset 20 to 40 minutes into the mission 3 times. We assumed this was the mission causing it (or a admin unsatisfied with the way the round was going?)but I've been on the EVO server and it's happened unexpectedly there also. Very annoying to invest the time and to feel like a pion as server resets!

08-26-2007, 11:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
jex Join Date: May 2003 Location: United Kingdom Age: 37 Posts: 3,399	Re: Manners Huh Is this server crashes or people logged in as admin restarting it? __________________ Jex

08-26-2007, 11:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
TheBigC Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Around Age: 36 Posts: 3,032	Re: Manners Huh People that logged in as a admin. So blame your peers!! But like I said before, that option has been limited now. __________________ The Meek shall inherit the earth..... after we're through with it! The Wounded Warrior Project, help support my friends

08-26-2007, 02:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
tHa_KhAn Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Gunshine State Age: 27 Posts: 2,120	Re: Manners Huh Not all apparent restarts are a result of a malicious admin. With the server up 24/7 someone logged in after the majority have left, may not want 8 hours of night, so the server gets reset. Also, the mission is buggy to begin with. If you see someone logged in as admin and then the server resets, ask them about it. __________________

08-26-2007, 03:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
Barnaby Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Stourport - Worcestershire -UK Age: 64 Posts: 542	Re: Manners Huh Just to fine tune last night's reset information as I witnessed it and replying to KhAn. There were 7-8 of us having been working our way through the towns. At about 00.15 AM GMT the server got reset/crashed. AT no time did any ADMIN say the server was about to be reset. I don't think even as you KaHn suggest that this was due to the 24/7 running of the server. An ADMIN should not just reset without informing those active on the server of his need to do so and that should not be just because he doesn't like the game state/style /map being played. BigC seems to be saying it was an ADMIN that reset the server at this time and that now going forward tighter controls are being applied so this shouldn't occur again. Good! I still do find it incredible that whoever did this could be so selfish. I didn't bother to re-connect after this not just because of the reset but more because of the manner in which it was done. I am a Supporting Member and did think TG was a great find, but I do expect to be treated with more respect than happened last night. Maybe I have mis-understood how TG runs but surely it is for the benifit of all and not for just a select few. __________________ "I like a man who grins when he fights" Sir Winston Churchill

08-26-2007, 03:54 PM	#13 (permalink)
boudreux Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bloomington, IL Age: 26 Posts: 1,146	Re: Manners Huh Barnaby, you really do get your pants in a bunch often. No ArmA admins reset it. We have to be logged into the game to restart the mission. It is very possible the buggy Evo mission reset itself. Maybe the moons were aligned just so. Please quit accusing and threatening. thanks. __________________

08-26-2007, 04:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
peardog Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: PA, USA Age: 39 Posts: 1,166	Re: Manners Huh I don't think an admin would have or could have reset it.. unless they were Logged into the game at the time. There are many times when C wants to make changes to the server or needs the Box reset..and will not do it when it is active. Plus.. Only a handful of the Admins have box access... so if it was shutdown and restarted..then look to a server/box failure (or the MS updates automatically restarted the server etc..) I would look and see who was playing at the time first and foremost. __________________ Have a great day! 2008!!! TG - SOP -- TeamSpeak Server Information - REQUIRED READING

08-26-2007, 04:33 PM	#15 (permalink)
Atomic Dog Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 31 Posts: 4,070	Re: Manners Huh I think the "admins" that BigC were referring to were those types of admins who are voted in by a player vote to change maps, restart servers, etc. Not to be confused with the TG Appointed Admins like Boudreux and Khan. __________________ \| ArmA SOPs \| PCS SOPs \| TG Primer \| 4th Wiki \| Ikariam Info: Mothership \| Parliament \| Chocolate City \| Saint George

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