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  1. 06-03-2009, 11:04 PM #1
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    A.C.E Advanced Combat Environment 2 announced!

    http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=73531



    its just now on the drawing boards. post your suggestions!




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  2. 06-04-2009, 12:32 AM #2
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    Re: A.C.E Advanced Combat Environment 2 announced!

    Shhhaweet...an why don't u have ArmA2 yet Vikk?
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  3. 06-04-2009, 12:42 AM #3
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    Re: A.C.E Advanced Combat Environment 2 announced!

    My suggestion is for the mod creators to play the published version when it arrives to the States (or the version already out in Europe, whichever) and THEN decide if ACE 2 is necessary. I'm sure it will be, however I think it is too early to produce suggestions for the mod.
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  4. 06-04-2009, 01:08 AM #4
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    Re: A.C.E Advanced Combat Environment 2 announced!

    I have some already, I disagree that it's too early.

    No backblast. No overpressure. Not complete penetration modeling. Poor vehicle/crew damage modeling. No rucksacks (!!). Poor disposable AT modeling. No weight affecting stamina. No prone AT weapon position. No weapon rest.

    I could go on I'm sure ...
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  5. 06-04-2009, 01:44 AM #5
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    Re: A.C.E Advanced Combat Environment 2 announced!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillespie View Post
    My suggestion is for the mod creators to play the published version when it arrives to the States (or the version already out in Europe, whichever) and THEN decide if ACE 2 is necessary. I'm sure it will be, however I think it is too early to produce suggestions for the mod.
    The team is playing A2 already. It's a good game, but there's definitely room for an ACE2 as well. Some of the people involved have been planning out potential new ACE2 features or changes for quite some time, too - it's definitely not be rushed into haphazardly.
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  6. 06-04-2009, 03:20 AM #6
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    Re: A.C.E Advanced Combat Environment 2 announced!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dslyecxi View Post
    The team is playing A2 already. It's a good game, but there's definitely room for an ACE2 as well. Some of the people involved have been planning out potential new ACE2 features or changes for quite some time, too - it's definitely not be rushed into haphazardly.
    I second that! This is definatly not ArmA1 call me a fan or whatever u want total diff direction then ArmA1 campaign that is. ArmA2 an ACE2=wow can only imagine.
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  7. 06-04-2009, 03:28 AM #7
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    Re: A.C.E Advanced Combat Environment 2 announced!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dslyecxi View Post
    The team is playing A2 already. It's a good game, but there's definitely room for an ACE2 as well. Some of the people involved have been planning out potential new ACE2 features or changes for quite some time, too - it's definitely not be rushed into haphazardly.
    Good to hear, wanting ACE2 to take into account everything ArmA 2 has added and improved and make changes and additions based on that alone has always been my main concern. I didn't have much doubt that this would take place, but I'm still glad to hear the sentiment mirrored.

    As I don't have ArmA 2 yet I won't give too many specific suggestions, but on a general note: ACE holds a very unique and privileged position as being the one mod (and in a sense collection of mods) that is guaranteed to be used by a large part of the community by default and as-is. This has a large knock-on effect with many missions being created requiring ACE content.

    So seeing as ACE is effectively widening the base that is ArmA/2 I'd like to see a greater selection of new content added, because that increases the variety of the missions that can be designed and we get to play. However I hope that all new content added will be of a very high quality - for example if porting weapons straight from ArmA to ArmA 2 means they aren't as detailed (I'm just assuming that will be the case) then I hope that will be avoided.

    Very much looking forward to this!
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  8. 06-04-2009, 10:01 AM #8
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    Re: A.C.E Advanced Combat Environment 2 announced!

    Hopefully ACE 2 can arrive within the first 6/8 months after game release. The additions ACE made to the gameplay of ARMA was/is great, but came, for many, months, if not a year late.

    Even if they can Crowbar ACE 1 into ARMA 2 quickly, that would be a great accomplishment.
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  9. 06-04-2009, 10:35 AM #9
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    Re: A.C.E Advanced Combat Environment 2 announced!

    Quote Originally Posted by peardog View Post
    Hopefully ACE 2 can arrive within the first 6/8 months after game release. The additions ACE made to the gameplay of ARMA was/is great, but came, for many, months, if not a year late.
    There is a long story behind why ACE1 took so long to come out, but it's the past - the current ACE team is not going to repeat those mistakes. They're already in the groove and have a process (well - processes) in place to keep things rolling along. It would be unwise to hypothesize about a release date at this point, but I would be confident in seeing it this year.

    Even if they can Crowbar ACE 1 into ARMA 2 quickly, that would be a great accomplishment.
    ACE2 and A2 deserve more than just a quick port. There are too many new things in A2 that need to be evaluated and considered, as well as things in ACE1 that deserve to be overhauled significantly regardless. Better to do it right than quick, really. Not to mention all the potentially new systems that are possible due to some of the new scripting commands available.
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    Re: A.C.E Advanced Combat Environment 2 announced!

    Yeh I definitely fall on the side of not rushing ACE out, but wanting a more comprehensive needs assessment on gaps in vanilla ArmA II (again can't speak to this until the US release).

    I would like to see ACE supporting additional vehicles and objects in the package (above and beyond gameplay improvements/tweaks), so that these can be leveraged by mission makers. My understanding is the ArmA II german version only has a couple of helo's available per side without the Little Bird. This is an example of something I would love to see ACE close the gap on.
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    Re: A.C.E Advanced Combat Environment 2 announced!

    Great news. There is also a WWII mod being ported, I'd post the vid, but don't have 15 post yet, lol
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    Re: A.C.E Advanced Combat Environment 2 announced!

    Quote Originally Posted by Call911 View Post
    Shhhaweet...an why don't u have ArmA2 yet Vikk?
    becuase its not out in usa yet.....=/


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    Re: A.C.E Advanced Combat Environment 2 announced!

    i personally think high priority is tank and IFV Fire control systems, once again BI have failed completely to even attempt to model this fundamental component of MBTs and IFVs. using what is in effect just aux. battle sights as your primary means of fire control is just silly
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    Re: A.C.E Advanced Combat Environment 2 announced!

    Also MLRS and the russian counterpart simulation.
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    Re: A.C.E Advanced Combat Environment 2 announced!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost02 View Post
    Also MLRS and the russian counterpart simulation.
    This already exists. MLRS and Grad, at least.
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