Originally Posted by Syn

BH doesn't have to worry about dead engineers. Most of the time, the Squad Leader is the pilot, and any dead engineers come right back after death thanks to the spawn-on-SL feature. With a decent pilot, the BH is a pretty no-contest, easy sure-win.

You can pick off the BH occupants all you want with a sniper, but chances are high they'll just respawn again 10 seconds later.

IMO, spawn-on-SL should not apply to any air vehicles. The wide range, and speed of aircraft allows them to go back to pick up squadmates should that be necessary. That would help balance it out a bit.

1) It's 15 seconds. Plenty of time for a few .50 cals to do the dirty work. Plus if your continuosly spraying down the cabin their just going to die again once they respawn. If your seriously trying to down the Blackhawk with anything but the unlocked sniper rifle, I have absolutely zero sympathy.

2) The BH is crazy vulnerable to enemy aircraft of all kinds. The only map its uber on is Mashtuur City. This is because there are no aircraft and only 2 AA turrets on the map that are up the hills and a mile away from any of the major points. You can't nerf the BH just because it's powerful on one map. It's a death trap on all the other maps. What your proposing would make it absolutely suck on 11 other maps and make it a bus on 1.

3) It will only take one squad working together to take out a Blackhawk. 3 .50 cals > 1 full Blackhawk. get 3 people driving 3 humvees/vodniks and 3 people on the big gun. That would be 3 cars with 2 people each. That one squad will down the BH

Originally Posted by Syn

Tanks do not have lock-on warnings because they fire dummy rounds, without any target-seeking capability. They are also slow on the relaod time, and movement. The tank is well-balanced, and can only be repaired when someone's outside, fixing it - ie vulnerable. Unlike the Black Hawk which can bugger out of a bad situation WHILE being repaired. Not so with the tank.

Gee, thanks. I never would have guessed that it didn't give a lock on warning because it's not locking on... yeah, I'm just THAT dumb? Tanks reload faster than AT missles and do more damage. On top of that they have a machinegun thats constantly spraying while the big gun reloads. This isn't even considering the gunner seat.

I never said tank > blackhawk. I said it's freakin annoying to get hit by a tank while piloting the BH because you never knew it was coming and suddenly you have only 1/4 health left. The person outside the tank fixing it is just as vulnerable as someone in the crew cabin. Probably less so because hes got cover from about 170 degrees. I don't even think the miniguns damage a tank, if they do it's not by much.

You guys want me to prove it? Next time we have a password server on Mashtuur City you can make the BH squad and my squad of cars will cahse you guys all over the map shooting you down left and right. I'll even leave you the cars once I hijack your helicopter.

I really don't like being told that I'm taking the easy road to dominating a map. Any road to domination is easy so long as no one resists.

*EDIT* My city is about to be nailed by hurricane Dennis so its gonna be a few weeks before I can play. Twice in two years for Pensacola.