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Old 09-09-2005, 09:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thrusday night lopsided mess (except Sharqi)

Wow, what a mess some of those games were last night. Dalian Planet had the MEC team with extreme air superiority, it rendered the USMC helpless. The fact that we also went through ~3 CO's per map didn't help either. I think the USMC lost Dalian by more than 400 tickets. Oman was another pounding by MEC from the skies, the server crash was a welcome sight

Karkand was a nice turning point for the USMC. Without any air to worry about we dominated the map, taking up to 2 bases at a time on the east side of the river. I had a great squad there, all TG veterans but some guys that I have never gotten to work with before. They performed incredible together, made the SL job simple. In the end, I don't think the win was a complete whipping if you looked at tickets. Maybe someone can chime in, but I think it was less than 150?

Sharqi was probably the best of the night and the closest. My whole intent of the night was to setup a squad and have new guys join to play with some veterans. The only "regular" guy I recognized on my team was Perry and the rest I had never really played with before (played with Fallosophy once). Wait, I should note that I had some of the regulars at the start but they either got disconnected or left (it was after midnight EST). We had some great battles there and I think in the end it was less than a 50 point game. I didn't talk to my guys as much as I should have on Sharqi, I spent more time yawning. Coincidentally, that's what I'm spending all morning doing too

One thing I've noticed is that I'm seeing new CO's step up to the chair, but they don't ride out the storm and a lot don't even speak to the SL's. As a SL I have been talking to these guys trying to give them some pointers from what I was seeing on the battlefield. Another thing I'd like to note is that there were several vote initiations to kick the CO's. I voted no for every one of them. You keep doing this and these guys will never try the chair again, shame on you. There is a difference between someone who tries and someone who does nothing. A CO who flies a copter? That's a kick vote. Things not going our way but the guy is trying? Knock off the kick votes. We had a new CO on one map (not last night and I won't give names) but the guy was too polite. Our main base got capped and they blew up our assets. The CO was talking to us saying "Can someone please go repair my assets and take back our main?" I said to him "You are the CO, and on this server people do what you tell them. Assign a squad to do it and it will get done. You can say please, but you must assign someone to do it." Don't be rude to these guys, you have no clue where they came from (probably a pub ranked server where you'd have beg to get anyone to help you).

I'll step off my soapbox now and just say I had a great time last night playing with some new people, they all performed very well.
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Old 09-09-2005, 09:34 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I thought those matches were pretty good, with the exception of Dalian, which was a total wipeout, and I think the worst start I've ever been involved in. I think we tried flying in on a blackhawk about 6 times and never even managed to make land.

After that I served on Beatnik's squad, and I think we did pretty well with the mainly defensive positions. We could have held that TV tower the whole time, too. Towards the end we realized we had to push for flags or risk losing everything - so we risked losing everything, and we lost everything. So it goes.

Good games though, I saw some good teamwork and solid play overall.
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Old 09-09-2005, 09:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
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I thought those matches were pretty good, with the exception of Dalian, which was a total wipeout, and I think the worst start I've ever been involved in. I think we tried flying in on a blackhawk about 6 times and never even managed to make land.

Good games though, I saw some good teamwork and solid play overall.
Hehe yeah, I was leading the Chinese Helo squad on that map. My gunner, Alapo, killed 2 full blackhawks coming in from the carrier when the game started. After that we tag-teamed with our other chopper flown by PaperTarget and Steel_Penguin to see who could shoot them down first. Went something like this :

ME: "BlackHawk!"
Steel_Penguin: "ooooh oooh MINE MINE!, Damn! it went THROUGH"
Alapo: "Oh man, barely missed it!"
ME: "Psssh, you gunners suck hehe. Lemme show you how PILOTS do it OLD SCHOOL"
*flurry of rockets followed by an explosion*

"ooooooh preetty"

Heh, joking aside Alapo and Steel_Penguin did a great job gunning, Paper and I would line 'em up and they'd knock 'em down.
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Old 09-09-2005, 10:03 AM   #4 (permalink)


 
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Dalian was a massacre. Even though we had no CO for much of the map (and the one that did step in did not issue a single order or speak at all), we still just dominated. I think the SLs did a wonderful job of just knowing what needed to be done and did it. Even without orders, many squads did play defense and attack appropriate flags.

Clean Sweep was also another good round for OpFor. We had a CO this time, and he kept things pretty organized.

By Karkand, MEC was again without a CO for the 1st half, and the game turned into its usual river standoff, until the USMC made it across.

Overall, I'm a bit dismayed by the lack of COs lately, and I hope that more players step up to the challenge.
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Old 09-09-2005, 10:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Yeh I remember the sniper squad on Mashtuur, that I took out with 1 grenade lol
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Oh man I joined Dalian when the USMC had 180 tickets left. I formed a sqaud and quite promptly got pounded over and over. What a disaster, I felt bad for the squad I couldn't even get us all together for more than 2 seconds. Some guys just left...I know I wasn't doing a good job but the circumstances were tough. Sorry guys...was not a good night for me. CableDawg stuck it out with me..appreciate it bud.
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Old 09-09-2005, 12:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Oh man I joined Dalian when the USMC had 180 tickets left. I formed a sqaud and quite promptly got pounded over and over. What a disaster, I felt bad for the squad I couldn't even get us all together for more than 2 seconds. Some guys just left...I know I wasn't doing a good job but the circumstances were tough. Sorry guys...was not a good night for me. CableDawg stuck it out with me..appreciate it bud.
I was there from the start. My squad immediately got into a boat and headed towards the shore. We got about 3/4 of the way when a J-10 came in and bombed us. It took him two runs and I bailed and was the only survivor. I had to swim to shore. By the time I got on shore china had almost all the flags except the SE CP. It was just downhill from there. It was a very slow process to move from our only CP to others (open terrain, no hiding spots) as tanks just rolled in one after the other, then the two MI-28's. My guys managed to take one point, and even hold it for a bit. However, the onslaught of copters and planes and tanks was just too much. It got so bad that I wasn't even interested in spawning near the end. I told my medic "Don't bother reviving me". I have never seen a team take a beating like that before.

AMosley is right. When we lost all our CP's on land I spawned on the ship. I boarded a BH to ride back over to the mainland. We got about 100 meters away from the ship when we were shot down. I saw it was going to happen and I bailed. Somehow that killed me and gave a TK to the pilot.

What's worse, having no CO or having no air squad?

EDIT: Trigger, I feel for you man. I know exactly what you're saying. I felt so bad for my guys that we got pummelled the way we did, but there wasn't much I could do. I did manage to move around as a mobile spawn point, but damn it was just SLOW.
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JMJ, I think you had your auto-aim trained directly on my backside during Sharqi. I think you killed me about 10 times in a couple of minutes when we were trying to take back the north flag. Y'all were on a roof handing out 'nades to us like it was candy on halloween.

SausageMakerMan -- nice work as SL. I enjoyed working with you.

We had a great medic on our team, but I can't remember who it was. Kept me alive many times! Sid Notsil was great, too, along with Icky and Phalen. Hell -- everyone!
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Old 09-09-2005, 01:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Thrusday night lopsided mess (except Sharqi)

I came in at the very end of Karkand and noticed there was no MEC CO, so I stepped up just for the hell of the last few mins. A bet a few people on the USMC were surprised to see arty falling.

I stayed on as CO for Sharqi, since I knew I would only have enough time for one more map. That was a very fun game. We were 100 tickets ahead for most of the round and the USMC Special Ops squad did a good job harassing us towards the end. I noticed that the TV station was heavily defended, so made no attempt to take it. I had one rogue squad try initially, but they backed down after I asked them to. I basically sought to hold all flags except for the East and South flags and let my defending squads, arty and attack helo work on the body count from there.

The TV station had a disproportionate number of spawning USMC troops, so this severely limited their ability to take other CPs or tickets from us. CPs would rise and fall, but as long as the USMC held the "out in the open" CPs, I was happy. I would just drop arty on them or send the attack helo their way.

It took the USMC way too long to realise that we weren't concerned with the TV station and that's what lost them the game in the end. We relaxed a bit towards the end, so lost a few CPs, but by that time the game was in the bag.

Good job to all the MEC squads, who followed orders diligently and defended my assets for most of the round.
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Dalian was a massacre. Even though we had no CO for much of the map (and the one that did step in did not issue a single order or speak at all), we still just dominated. I think the SLs did a wonderful job of just knowing what needed to be done and did it. Even without orders, many squads did play defense and attack appropriate flags.
Yes, not only did we have air superiority, we brought in a lot of vehicles from the rear bases to continually re-supply ourselves across the map. Most of the time people won't think to do this, and they're forced to rely only on infantry. But we nearly had an armored column half the time, right in the center of the map where we needed it.

My favorite part of the round has to be when in Tempus' squad, we were defending the central coast flag, and JMJ's group was to the southeast. I patrolled around in a jeep and got sniped off the gun by JMJ while firing on one of his squaddies. Wondering how I would get my revenge, I later heard there were two guys approaching from the south. I launched a grenade and knocked out both of them; one of them was JMJ.

James: "Yeah, I got both of them!"
Squad: "Are you sure that's all?"
James: "Yeah."
(pause)
James: "Oh wait, I got one more."
Squad: "So that area's clear now?"
James: "Yeah, there were three, but I killed 'em all."
Squad: "You sure?"
James: "Let me check."
(pause)
James: "Yeah, area should be fine now."
(pause)
James: "No, I just killed two more."


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Overall, I'm a bit dismayed by the lack of COs lately, and I hope that more players step up to the challenge.
I often see people as COs whose names I don't recognize from previous rounds. It's almost like pubbies drift into the server at random just to fill CO vacancies. Also, I think the people most likely to make good CO's probably prefer playing SL.
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Yeah, a CO on Karkand would have been helpful. For a while I think my squad (tau_neutrino, Ragnar, cpl3, ThatOneGuy-2, Aftermath415 - good work guys) were the only ones defending the east bank. I was going to send a couple of guys over to the west bank to try to relieve some pressure from the bridge but then the USMC capped our base, and so we remained on the east side the entire map. When we finally got the base back it took ages to dislodge a USMC squad from the roof and crane. Who was that anyway? The only name I remember seeing was AMosley.

The server crashed before Dalian ended, didn't it? The com chatter in the air squad towards the end was all just 'boat to the south' 'transport helo to the north' etc... I've been in the USMC's situation before on that map, and it's not pretty. I think swimming might be the most effective way of crossing if the Chinese air and chopper squads aren't locked down. But doesn't the Essex have two AA positions on it? Did the USMC have them manned?

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There is a difference between someone who tries and someone who does nothing. A CO who flies a copter? That's a kick vote. Things not going our way but the guy is trying? Knock off the kick votes. We had a new CO on one map (not last night and I won't give names) but the guy was too polite. Our main base got capped and they blew up our assets. The CO was talking to us saying "Can someone please go repair my assets and take back our main?" I said to him "You are the CO, and on this server people do what you tell them. Assign a squad to do it and it will get done. You can say please, but you must assign someone to do it." Don't be rude to these guys, you have no clue where they came from (probably a pub ranked server where you'd have beg to get anyone to help you).
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Good job to all the MEC squads, who followed orders diligently and defended my assets for most of the round.
I joined the commando's squad the last 10 minutes of the round and all we were doing were destroying the mecs assets. The last 2 minutes of the round we blew up the artillary and I got this idea to put c4 on the blown up arty to blow you guys up when you came to repair it. 30 seconds later I see you coming down there with an apc, reach the arty, I blow the c4, the apc lights up, and you run out. After a couple of seconds 2 guys get on the arty and (i forget his name) blows some more c4 and both the guys just go flying. Ah, that was hilarious. YOu seriously must of hated us.
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I joined the commando's squad the last 10 minutes of the round and all we were doing were destroying the mecs assets. The last 2 minutes of the round we blew up the artillary and I got this idea to put c4 on the blown up arty to blow you guys up when you came to repair it. 30 seconds later I see you coming down there with an apc, reach the arty, I blow the c4, the apc lights up, and you run out. After a couple of seconds 2 guys get on the arty and (i forget his name) blows some more c4 and both the guys just go flying. Ah, that was hilarious. YOu seriously must of hated us.
Yeah, I noticed that. Good job on re-applying the C4, it's an underused tactic and works well against a pro-active CO. Gunrack's squad provided excellent support though and the Medics revived pretty much everyone who got taken down there.
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Yeah, a CO on Karkand would have been helpful. For a while I think my squad (tau_neutrino, Ragnar, cpl3, ThatOneGuy-2, Aftermath415 - good work guys) were the only ones defending the east bank. I was going to send a couple of guys over to the west bank to try to relieve some pressure from the bridge but then the USMC capped our base, and so we remained on the east side the entire map. When we finally got the base back it took ages to dislodge a USMC squad from the roof and crane. Who was that anyway? The only name I remember seeing was AMosley.
That was my squad. We tried to camp up there for most of the game. Had quite a bit of fun with the claymores at the top of the crane ladder. :P
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