JMJ

Gotta apologize to my squad, I got a CTD (crash to desktop) right after I accidentally TK'd Strag (TK gods saw that). I figured my spot was probably full and I wasn't going to ask someone to get the boot since I was planning on making that my last map anyway. Hell of a job tonight by everyone who worked with me on Mashtuur, Zatar, and Dragon Valley. I had a blast! You definitely make the SL job an easy one. Bubba, Xink, James, Burble, Gixxer, Steel Penguin, StupidAwesome, Dustermahn. Sorry if I left anyone out.

TG_Bubba

Sorry you left. We were having a hell of a good time. They all asked at the same time "where did he go". Great squad tonight. We ran all over the place retaking flag's. Great fun.

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Santa

Man dragon valley was painful to try to CO, especcialy cuz i couldnt see anything the whole round. Maybe it was just an unlucky night but it seems its a lot harder to CO the usmc on that map than it is the chinese with the ticket bleed.

jepzilla

USMC has been getting stomped on that map recently, but I don't think it's just ticket bleed since the stompage started before ticket bleed was added. Yet a month ago I hated playing that map as China since the USMC always won. I think a significant factor is that people have figured the map out and know how to defend it now.

What I find is a really good indicator of that map is the north-east CP, on the hill. If the USMC can't reliably hold that CP, the Chinese team will win.

Cain

That CP with radar and UAV is more important than most people think. Granted, it's away from the action, but not only can you control all CO assets, it also spawns Black Hawk, armour and a number of other vehicles, so it is a great price for the PLA to grab. Once there, a squad can hold of attackers almost indefinitely through proper use of mines, C4 and on site hardware. A jeep positioned to the east can also take down damaged helicopters on their way for repairs/reloads on the carrier as they exit the valley. Careful not to fire on the carrier!

Last night, we made three runs before finally recapturing it early in the round, but I belive we lost it again soon after when we went for the PLA main. Sorry to the squad for leaving in our moment of triumph there. My connection was lost and, it being 4:30 am CET and all, I decided to quit.

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JMJ

You were doing good considering what you lost right off the bat. If I had known no one was going to step up and defend there, I would've stayed back and done it. I also enjoyed the flag hopping mission you sent my squad on, that was a blast. We actually went around the entire river, down one side and up the other. That was pretty funny, we took every flag you sent us to and just kept on rollin'.

TG_Trigger

I was in Azreal's China utility squad. We managed keep your assets down for almost the whole game. Alot of driving between the arty and uav. I must have blown up 5 repair crates with nades. I was suprised you didn't commit more troops to re-take the docks. Even the helicopters from the carrier left us alone. We had a couple of attempts by Bommando's squad but I'm not sure it was a full squad attack.

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Tempus

10 CPs on this map make it hard to reliably induce ticket bleed.. A team needs to hold 6, which is difficult unless some smaller squads are around or single squads are defending more than one flag.

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AzrealDarkmoon

For the past few days I have been focusing on what I call "Utility" squads, generally 4 person squads. Although last night I think we ended up filling up a full squad. We lost the point twice I beleive after we initially took it.

I have found great success in a 4 man squad destroying assets, assisting hotspots ect. With a focus on assets. Last night was a great night in which I needed a 6 man squad. At the beginning it was a slugfest followed by at least 15 minutes of quiet time. Then Bommando struck several times and at one time made it on the flag but I don't think it ever switched.

Its a hard base to defend IMHO, its so open, true its easy to defend one side but hit us both from sea and ground and its hard since it is so swiss cheese.

Also we were fired on by the Essex AA guns, I told my men that if it fires it is fair game, I don't think we actually launched anything that way but I fire rockets at the essex trying to take out the AA gun is alright if it fires upon us.

Everybody performed great last night on our squad.

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The rules are a little hard to interpret here. None of the assets are at the UCB on this map and from the dock CP you have a clear view of the UCB. I don't think any of us in Azreals squad fired on the anything in the process of taking off from the Essex but every once and a while the essex did fire its AA gun at us. Does that mean the essex is fair game at that stage? When is it okay to fire on a helicopter? When it starts spinning up, when it leaves the deck or when it turns to face you? Personally I feel that if the USMC is willing to let the Chinese capture a base with a clear view of their flight deck then you should be allowed to harrassing anything trying to take off from there at your own discretion. I just hate sitting there watching something take off and knowing that in ten seconds its going to fire at me without even giving it a second thought.

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TG_Bubba

There has been quite a few times that I was standing on the deck waiting with my squad to board a chopper and was strafed and killed. I know that many times the AA on board the carrier has been attacked by fighters. I have even seen APC's approach, attack and drop people off in the water. So is the carrier free game?

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James315

JMJ got inexplicably switched to another squad toward the beginning of the round, and I was appointed SL. At first we thought he'd disconnected, but then found him and joined his squad. Much later, he got disconnected for real, and the game again saw fit to make me clean up his mess. Luckily JMJ informed someone via TS that he'd crashed to desktop and was leaving so we didn't have to try looking for him again.

I noticed during this round that everything was either dead silent or overwhelming opposition with coordinated attacks from jets & choppers. We held off a lot of attacks at the flags we defended. Santa was CO, and Bommando and JMJ were both squad leaders during this round, and our team still lost by 200 tickets. Sometimes the dragon wins, as they say.

JMJ

Ouch, what mess did I leave? When I got wacked we had the NE base under control. Did you and Dustermahn get the temple?

I also have no clue in hell how I got switched to another squad. One minute I was leading squad one and the next minute I was all by myself in squad 7. WTF? It happend to me a few nights ago too. I can't quite figure out how it's happening.

James315

Both times you left the squad we all felt really disoriented because we'd gotten into such a groove of following the waypoints around the map.

We did get the temple. Afterward we were ordered to advance eastward to that CP with all of the huts and the helipad. It turned out the enemy CO wanted to keep that one badly...

Santa

in hindsight i think i shoulda sent at least one more squad to assist bommando. I think ive COed each map and dragon valley and clean sweep are the hardest for me. So many flags, and the maps are so big that if you lose your scan you're essentially screwed.