Unlocked Weapons on the Private Server

**Dirt013** · 07-06-2005, 08:15 PM

Am i the only one who doesn't like the idea that everyone who joins the private server gets access to all the locked weapons? i understand that it's somewhat self defeating to tell your members....you have to go to a ranked server to unlock the weapons...but still, if i chose to take the time to "earn" these weapons...it seems unfair to me to grant everyone access to them just because they are a paying member. i don't know...but i doubt i'll play on the private server with this current configuration in place...and if i do, i'll only use the weapons i've unlocked or those that come standard with the kit. i understand the thinking behind unlocking the weapons....i guess i just Feel that this is wrong...something for nothing doesn't sit well with me.

if anyone chooses to reply to this, please don't tell me that running around on a ranked server playing Rambo, doesn't mean that i've earned the right to access the locked weapons....or that those who wish to strictly play tactical....and therefore never leave the TG server...have just as much of a right to them as i do. ANYWHERE i play and wear the TG tags, i play tactical team play....that's the point of the game as far as i can tell....and i'm proud to wear these tags for what they represent! and yes, it SUCKS that i have to leave my favorite server (and the ONLY place i truly wish to play) to go earn these weapons...but i spend the time doing this, because i believe that having access to these "enhanced" weapons will improve the experience i have when playing on Our servers. (i have used the unlocked assault weapon class...because one of our fellow TG'ers (Ghost) told me to grab his kit when he died...there is a difference....that firearm was more powerful than the standard fare.)

well, see you on the pub server...

Dirt013

**RandomGuy** · 07-06-2005, 08:30 PM

I'm glad TG doesn't endorse "grinding" (as in the MMORPG sense) away on public servers by letting the rewards of said grinding carry over to our servers. I don't see any point from the community's perspective in letting the grinders have an advantage of unlockables that non-grinders don't get.

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something for nothing doesn't sit well with me

Spending tons of time doing something you dislike in order to get ahead doesn't sit well with me when we are talking about a game world where the point is to have fun. This is why I don't play MMORPGs.

Wulfyn · 07-06-2005, 08:46 PM

Hi Dirt - good post.

I would agree with you but for 1 thing I have found. The score doesn't seem to reflect your ability, and thus overall just comes down to how long you can play the game. Sure being better might accelerate that a bit, but it won't prevent it. As such it seems all you have to do to 'earn' the unlockables is just put a lot of time in.

In this sense I would see having all weapons on the private server as unlocked not as a reward for those that haven't earn't it, but rather the removal of a punishment for those that are good enough but would prefer to not invest all that time on a ranked server.

However I only retain this opinion for 2 other reasons:

1/ Paying members of TG seem to be more involved with teamplay than gun-monkeying;

2/ The unlocked weapons are not specifically better than the standard ones, just a different option in most cases (although this is not as true in the specific instance of the medic class).

**Dirt013** · 07-06-2005, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Wulfyn

The unlocked weapons are not specifically better than the standard ones, just a different option in most cases (although this is not as true in the specific instance of the medic class).

the assault class as well...plus i guess the sniper rifle is also much improved...

thanks for the input Wulfyn.

Dirt013

TG_Rizzo · 07-06-2005, 08:54 PM

I don't see how playing on ranked servers equates to earning anything, 'cept maybe a migraine dealing with all the asshats.

Sorry, I play here for maturity and teamwork and couldn't care less about rankings or unlocking weapons. The stats would be nice, though, just for curiousity's sake but I still don't think anything needs to be earned by subjecting oneself to hours of playing with idjits.

**Apophis** · 07-06-2005, 10:23 PM

Personally. I would like to play with the unlocked weapons but I have found playing on the official ranked servers to be a bear. I don't enjoy playing on them and don't enjoy playing away from my TG friends. I also don't have the time to invest in playing in an environment I don't like to unlock features in the game that I've already paid for.

Having the private server set to unlocked weapons gives the members the ability to try the other weapons and use the ones they like the best. It keeps the playing field level for those who can only play a couple hours a week and those that can play for 6 hours a day.

octavius · 07-06-2005, 10:46 PM

Ditto Apo. I have absolutely no interest in slaving away time to gain a silly number next to my name. You'll probably never find me on a ranked server (or any non-TG server) for that reason. I can live without the alternate weapons, and I can also live with them, but I'm not going to think it unfair if they are unlocked for the supporting members to play with. I don't particularly care for EA's rules; I'd rather choose a different path and create my own fun experience - I can do this with the TG priv server.

07-06-2005, 08:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dirt013 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania, U.S.A. Posts: 582	Unlocked Weapons on the Private Server Am i the only one who doesn't like the idea that everyone who joins the private server gets access to all the locked weapons? i understand that it's somewhat self defeating to tell your members....you have to go to a ranked server to unlock the weapons...but still, if i chose to take the time to "earn" these weapons...it seems unfair to me to grant everyone access to them just because they are a paying member. i don't know...but i doubt i'll play on the private server with this current configuration in place...and if i do, i'll only use the weapons i've unlocked or those that come standard with the kit. i understand the thinking behind unlocking the weapons....i guess i just Feel that this is wrong...something for nothing doesn't sit well with me. if anyone chooses to reply to this, please don't tell me that running around on a ranked server playing Rambo, doesn't mean that i've earned the right to access the locked weapons....or that those who wish to strictly play tactical....and therefore never leave the TG server...have just as much of a right to them as i do. ANYWHERE i play and wear the TG tags, i play tactical team play....that's the point of the game as far as i can tell....and i'm proud to wear these tags for what they represent! and yes, it SUCKS that i have to leave my favorite server (and the ONLY place i truly wish to play) to go earn these weapons...but i spend the time doing this, because i believe that having access to these "enhanced" weapons will improve the experience i have when playing on Our servers. (i have used the unlocked assault weapon class...because one of our fellow TG'ers (Ghost) told me to grab his kit when he died...there is a difference....that firearm was more powerful than the standard fare.) well, see you on the pub server... Dirt013

07-06-2005, 08:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Wulfyn Join Date: May 2005 Location: Norwich, UK Age: 29 Posts: 4,236	Re: Unlocked Weapons on the Private Server Hi Dirt - good post. I would agree with you but for 1 thing I have found. The score doesn't seem to reflect your ability, and thus overall just comes down to how long you can play the game. Sure being better might accelerate that a bit, but it won't prevent it. As such it seems all you have to do to 'earn' the unlockables is just put a lot of time in. In this sense I would see having all weapons on the private server as unlocked not as a reward for those that haven't earn't it, but rather the removal of a punishment for those that are good enough but would prefer to not invest all that time on a ranked server. However I only retain this opinion for 2 other reasons: 1/ Paying members of TG seem to be more involved with teamplay than gun-monkeying; 2/ The unlocked weapons are not specifically better than the standard ones, just a different option in most cases (although this is not as true in the specific instance of the medic class).

07-06-2005, 08:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
TG_Rizzo Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Rhode Island, USA Posts: 401	Re: Unlocked Weapons on the Private Server I don't see how playing on ranked servers equates to earning anything, 'cept maybe a migraine dealing with all the asshats. Sorry, I play here for maturity and teamwork and couldn't care less about rankings or unlocking weapons. The stats would be nice, though, just for curiousity's sake but I still don't think anything needs to be earned by subjecting oneself to hours of playing with idjits.

07-06-2005, 10:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
Apophis Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Rhode Island, USA Age: 35 Posts: 8,868	Re: Unlocked Weapons on the Private Server Personally. I would like to play with the unlocked weapons but I have found playing on the official ranked servers to be a bear. I don't enjoy playing on them and don't enjoy playing away from my TG friends. I also don't have the time to invest in playing in an environment I don't like to unlock features in the game that I've already paid for. Having the private server set to unlocked weapons gives the members the ability to try the other weapons and use the ones they like the best. It keeps the playing field level for those who can only play a couple hours a week and those that can play for 6 hours a day. __________________ Diplomacy is the art of saying "good doggie" while looking for a bigger stick.

07-06-2005, 10:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
octavius Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 71	Re: Unlocked Weapons on the Private Server Ditto Apo. I have absolutely no interest in slaving away time to gain a silly number next to my name. You'll probably never find me on a ranked server (or any non-TG server) for that reason. I can live without the alternate weapons, and I can also live with them, but I'm not going to think it unfair if they are unlocked for the supporting members to play with. I don't particularly care for EA's rules; I'd rather choose a different path and create my own fun experience - I can do this with the TG priv server.

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