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Old 07-12-2005, 01:51 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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Re: please help me fly a chopper

Another tip I might have missed in my scan of this thread: turn the mouse sensitivity down to about 1.00.

REALLY helps. Most new pilots are "heavy" on the stick and this solves that. Turn the sensitivity up as you improve.
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Old 07-12-2005, 03:38 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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Re: please help me fly a chopper

I'd say get a joystick as soon as you can. It's inexpensive, and it does wonders. Will help you find that smooth, natural feeling there is to flying, and you'll be able to transfer your hand knowledge onto an airplane as well.
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Old 07-13-2005, 05:43 AM   #18 (permalink)
 
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I'd say get a joystick as soon as you can. It's inexpensive, and it does wonders. Will help you find that smooth, natural feeling there is to flying, and you'll be able to transfer your hand knowledge onto an airplane as well.
Joysticks to look for
1)Thrustmaster AfterBurner I Or II Comes with a separate throttle and a twisty rudder or Rocker button option. 8 buttons 4 on stick 4 on throttle more than enough for BF2.

2)Saitek X45 It's a little more expensive. Comes with a separate throttle and a rocker Button rudder only. Myriad of Buttons and mode switches.

3)Saitek X52 Newer Version Of X45 Comes with Twisty rudder only. More features More money.

Personally I have The Afterburner I and it's perfect for this game. Highly recommend it.
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Old 07-13-2005, 06:15 AM   #19 (permalink)
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For the people with joysticks....when you let go of the joystick (let it center itself) does your craft and chopper center themselves or do you have to adjust with your joystick accordingly to get the aircraft/chopper to center?

That's the problem I have with a gamepad. The axis will not auto center and I have to try and fine tune the axis to get it centered, which never works! So I'm wondering if a joystick has the same problem before I buy one.

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I picked up the game and gave it a go the other day. It does not autocentre, so you have to anticipate the move.

I have no problem flying a chopper, and with the rudder input I can fly at top speed and weave in and out of trees, houses, poles, etc with ease, and it's great fun too. My problem comes with gunnery. I can't get my shots to hit at the X-hair, instead they seem to go long most of the time.

Anyone got any tips?
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Old 07-13-2005, 09:00 AM   #20 (permalink)
 
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Uh, aim short? The rockets are notoriously inaccurate, that's why there's a gunner seat.
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Old 07-13-2005, 09:04 AM   #21 (permalink)
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There seems to be a difference depending on the angle of the chopper as to where the rockets fall - I'll do some testing. Does the gunner get to use all weapons?
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Old 07-13-2005, 09:29 AM   #22 (permalink)
 
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Gunners have 2 weapons.

1. A chain gun. Deadly against infantry, light jeeps, and can be used against enemy choppers. Shoot away. press F9 one more time to make the chopper animation disappear so u can much more as a gunner on the chain gun.
2. a TV guided missile. Deadly against armors. Shoot the missile and use your mouse to control the missile from the missile's perspective as it is midair. On head on hit this missile can blow up a Tank with full health with one shot.

Pilot dude have one weapon
14 missiles.
But Pilot's main role is to spot and hover in air as steady as possible until the gunner takes down stuff... Pilot can use 14 missiles against enemy choppers and some ground forces if gunner fails to destroy them
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Re: please help me fly a chopper

My worst mistake was to try to fly in 3rd person view. All that does, is cause me to overcompensate ALL movements.

Also, I could NEVER really get the hang of flying with kb + mouse. I use an OLD and cheap Microsoft Sidewinder Precision Pro joystick. Being old, it does not require specific software. This is really handy at gaming cafes or on a friend's computer. I just plug it up (USB), calibrate it in control panel and play.

PS - If you get an older joystick, just be sure it has rudder control.
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:02 AM   #24 (permalink)
 
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Re: please help me fly a chopper

I'm finding my Saitek Cyborg Evo is really helpful and over on GWJ, someone mentioned finding one for $30 new. I got mine for $20 factory reconditioned direct from Saitek. Worth every penny.
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Gunners have 2 weapons.

2. a TV guided missile. Deadly against armors. Shoot the missile and use your mouse to control the missile from the missile's perspective as it is midair. On head on hit this missile can blow up a Tank with full health with one shot.
To further explain, the TV guided missle does not work like an AT missle. You do not hold the fire button down and move your mouse to make the TV missle move. If you want to change the trajectory of your missle, place your mouse over the new spot and do a single left click. This will then cause the missle to *try* and adjust to your new course.

So, if you click the button and fire a TV missle directly on a tank and the tank does not move while the missle is incoming, do nothing! The missle will not miss.

This information is from the Prima strategy guide and I've used it to be #1 on a map with an excellent pilot. We were blowing Blackhawk's out of the sky and tearing up tanks with those TV Missles.

The best moment I remember is when my pilot brought us up behind a full 6-man BH that was flying straight. I fired that TV missle right up their tail and they all died in a glorious blaze. I believe asch was one of the individuals in the BH
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To further explain, the TV guided missle does not work like an AT missle. You do not hold the fire button down and move your mouse to make the TV missle move. If you want to change the trajectory of your missle, place your mouse over the new spot and do a single left click. This will then cause the missle to *try* and adjust to your new course.

So, if you click the button and fire a TV missle directly on a tank and the tank does not move while the missle is incoming, do nothing! The missle will not miss.
Ah... so that's the trick. Thanks for the heads up Telorn.
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Re: please help me fly a chopper

I've been practicing with my Saitek Evo, and while it works wonders for piloting jets, I think I do better on the copters with my kb+mouse. Not that I'm particularly good at either one no matter what I use for control.
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