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Old 07-26-2005, 11:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Question Cobra Minigun Bugged

Last night improbable_cause and I (excellent flying by the way!) are flying around in a cobra dealing death everywhere, like I normally do with an excellent pilot

Anyways, we noticed that the minigun tends to not work when 'firing' on infantry. This happened multiple times, but for example, two guys were laying on top of a little silo. Improbable brings the chopper to a hover and I'm unloading the mini on these guys. The whole time you see the bullets hitting them, but they never die! I'm just staring at the screen with my mouth wide open while unloading on these two. Neither of them died and we flew off.

What is with this? Sometimes I can hit a guy and kill him within a second...other times I can unload on a guy, with the graphics showing as I'm hitting him, until the gun over heats and he'll run off.

Anyone else think this is bugged?
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Re: Cobra Minigun Bugged

It's either a bug or a latency problem.

If both of you guys are seeing them being hit yet they don't die then I'd say it's a bug. If it's just you and not the pilot, I'd say it's a latency issue.

You're seeing them being hit even though they've already taken off before you've killed them.

Dunno to be honest because it's happened to me with normal weapons as well. I'll unload a clip into a guys chest/head and he'll turn around or bunny hop and cap me with one shot without dying....
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:14 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Re: Cobra Minigun Bugged

I doubt that the gun itself is bugged. It is more likely a map bug, like when you hit obstacles that are not visible in front of you.
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Re: Cobra Minigun Bugged

teleron...and why you accidently shot at a teammate...it actually killed him lol
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:28 AM   #5 (permalink)
 
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Re: Cobra Minigun Bugged

I had the same problem coule of times too. I would unload on a guy who is AA and he would not die at all. And he blast us away.

I think it is a bug that happens occasionally.
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
 
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teleron...and why you accidently shot at a teammate...it actually killed him lol
I killed you with a minigun? I think I recall saying to Improbable the one time the mini worked it was a team mate I shot in the back!
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It's either a bug or a latency problem.

If both of you guys are seeing them being hit yet they don't die then I'd say it's a bug. If it's just you and not the pilot, I'd say it's a latency issue.

You're seeing them being hit even though they've already taken off before you've killed them.

Dunno to be honest because it's happened to me with normal weapons as well. I'll unload a clip into a guys chest/head and he'll turn around or bunny hop and cap me with one shot without dying....
It was definitely both of us. I'd ask if improbable saw me hitting them and he said yes. He couldn't believe it either. I told him to give up on me with the minigun and start unloading rockets instead. They don't seem to be bugged!
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I killed you with a minigun? I think I recall saying to impossible the one time the mini worked it was a team mate I shot in the back!
no...i was on the heli squad flying a jet on Oman...and i think you accidently shot that guy that stole the helicopter before and I remember you complaining that it only hits teammates
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Oh..and Improbable....I'll gun for you any day.
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no...i was on the heli squad flying a jet on Oman...and i think you accidently shot that guy that stole the helicopter before and I remember you complaining that it only hits teammates
Ah...that night comes to haunt me! That guy was stealing the 'cobra' and using it as a transport to drop his teammates off at the MEC UCB one by one! I was a little ticked and fired no more than a second in his direction to let out the steam..and of course...the gun, at this point in time, is accurate as hell and takes him out.

I expected it to only be a warning shot
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Re: Cobra Minigun Bugged

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Last night improbable_cause and I (excellent flying by the way!) are flying around in a cobra dealing death everywhere, like I normally do with an excellent pilot

Anyways, we noticed that the minigun tends to not work when 'firing' on infantry. This happened multiple times, but for example, two guys were laying on top of a little silo. Improbable brings the chopper to a hover and I'm unloading the mini on these guys. The whole time you see the bullets hitting them, but they never die! I'm just staring at the screen with my mouth wide open while unloading on these two. Neither of them died and we flew off.

What is with this? Sometimes I can hit a guy and kill him within a second...other times I can unload on a guy, with the graphics showing as I'm hitting him, until the gun over heats and he'll run off.

Anyone else think this is bugged?
I've had the same problem in the past. I would think it's a latency issue. But it could be a bug....
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:14 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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Re: Cobra Minigun Bugged

I've seen many people report this bug. Seems like the hit detection is off a bit.

We played around with it after witnessing what you saw, and it seems like if a person goes prone, they are immune. Standing, they take damage as you'd expect. Although, the splash is still very small, so you have to aim well.
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Old 07-26-2005, 03:13 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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It was definitely both of us. I'd ask if improbable saw me hitting them and he said yes. He couldn't believe it either. I told him to give up on me with the minigun and start unloading rockets instead. They don't seem to be bugged!
Haha, I remember the silo thing well. I was watching the explosions from the rounds hit the guy's body DEAD ON and was amazed he still lived. Telorn must have unloaded at least 30+ rounds at him from point-blank range (I literally could've swerved a bit forward and to the side and crushed the guy with the chopper). I was in a state of shock and decided it was time to pull up, watching the dude we were firing at get up and leap off the silo in one piece.

I also remember the time at the gas station capture point. A bunch of infantry was running around, engaged with some friendly forces. I started hovering around, trying to give you a steady platform to fire from. There was one guy between the gas pumps that you opened up on. Needless to say, the rounds bounced off him like rubber. So I took off and, as we were flying by the TOW at high speeds, you shot off about 5 rounds randomly... and killed the guy manning the TOW. It was too damn funny!

Oh yeah, Telorn, you are one awesome gunner. If chopper pilots need somebody who can hit TV-guided missiles with nearly 100% accuracy, Telorn's your man! Definitely prefer you as a gunner over everybody else.
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Re: Cobra Minigun Bugged

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I've seen many people report this bug. Seems like the hit detection is off a bit.

We played around with it after witnessing what you saw, and it seems like if a person goes prone, they are immune. Standing, they take damage as you'd expect. Although, the splash is still very small, so you have to aim well.
You might be right about the prone thing. Both times (the silo and gas station situations), the enemy infantry was prone. Hmm...
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
 
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Re: Cobra Minigun Bugged

This happens to me sometimes too, now that I think about it tends to happen more often when the enemy is prone. Might be worth investigating with a friend.
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