SmokingTarpan

-No IVC (Instant Vertical Capture) with the Seahawk?

Three or four times tonight on Kubra Dam my squad was actively defending a flag, with 2-3 guys (including myself once) in the flag radius. Blackhawk comes in, hovers on the flag for 2-3sec, captures it and flies off. And for the record, yes we started firing (With 2-3 AT guys as well as Assault and Support guns) as soon as we saw the helicopter. They still managed to capture the flag.

Cheap, annoying and frustrating.

By the way, apologies to my squad on Mashtuur. My game did a nice CTD, and I decided that I was really too tired to head back in.

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TheMuncher

I would be up for it once there is a mod making the BH be able to hold 6 passengers + driver and two gunners. As it is, when used as a transport it ends up being left behind and wasted, or has to be destroyed to keep enemy assets out of it.

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Kojio

There's no point in using it as a transport when you can capture flags without anyone leaving the vehicle.

perry

Yes, that sure was annoying! Almost as annoying as getting mowed down by that thing half a dozen times right after artillery had hit us! That Kubra Dam felt like an exercise in futility.

Next round Bommando took over the squad.. Of course, he showed up as red to me the ENTIRE round. I kept wondering where that Aussie accent was coming from and how come I never saw my squad leader. Luckily, I don't think I managed to TK him, but I know I died a couple times trying to check the uniforms and read the names of enemies.

Same thing happened with the Blackhawk that round, too. We were defending around the power plant, blackhawk took the flag, we raced back to get it, but before we could turn it the USMC was spawning and took us out. Mowed down time after time after time.

JayhawkGrunt

Yeah...it wouldn't break my heart of they made it so that flags can't be captured from the air. Its pretty cheap to have guys just fly around in a helo capping flag after flag and there really isn't anything you can do. You shoot it with aa and they just repair while capping another flag.

Zephyr

If you would all just aim and hit the people IN the blackhawk rather than the blackhawk itself, you'd be shocked just how counterable the blackcap strategy is. Shoot a grenade, throw a grenade, or fire an antitank rocket INTO the chopper and everything will go to hell for them.
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perry

Yea, it's great to land a opfor-version-of-the-M203 inside the cabin of a blackhawk, but it's tough! You gotta be at just the right angle and aim just perfectly. On one of the two rounds I played tonight, maybe Kubra Dam, I managed to land one good round and take out 3 guys. Chopper bugged out right away, but if the pilot as the SL, it was back in action maybe 30 seconds later after the engineer respawns and repairs the chopper.. Maybe that would be a good nerf -- can't spawn on the SL in an aircraft?

Other than that, and maybe a couple hits to the underbelly of the chopper, I didn't have much luck hitting it. I'm not terrible with the grenade launcher, but hitting that blackhawk in the air as it's moving around is hard! Same goes for the AT rocket. Miss and the gunners will be on you like white on rice...

Kojio

You underestimate the vertical distance that some flags have on them. Many flags are cappable really high in the air, and many indoor flags can be captured from the rooftop.

Zephyr

Well I'm all for a realism MOD that would increase damage by small arms fire on transport copters maybe 3-fold. The little (non-existant?) damage that is currently done right now defies reality to such an extreme it isnt even that fun anymore in the game.

Edit: And WHY THE BLOODY HELL cant you shoot out the pilot??? I REALLY dont understand that.
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Cur

I absolutely agree.

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Ragged

IMO I just don't really think you should be able to cap a flag without folks on the ground. So I guess I'm for the rule, although good luck actually enforcing it. The tactic is so often used at this point you would find yourself chastising half the server.

Making a mod that only allowed folks/vehicles on the ground to capture seems like the only realistic way this will ever get implemented.

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TG_Rizzo

Agreed.

Oh, and when I see Kubra Dam loading, I bail. Somebody flush that trash right down the toilet please. :O

Tempus

A rule like that would likely be impossible to enforce. EA has mentioned changes to the use of transport choppers, so we'll just have to see how that works. I expect it will make us all happy.

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Rincewind

You can shoot out the pilot of a black hawk quite easily. One AT round to his side of the cockpit = no pilot. If the crew doesn't realize what happened expect to see 5 [is no more] in 20 seconds after you take out the pilot. I've done this numerous times on Mashtuur and have had it done to me at least three times.

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I would not mind seeing this rule as well. I saw what they can do. With everything firing at them they still cap the flag right under out nose.