Bailattelo

The unthinkable happened twice. I was playing on the TG server as a squadleader and we got a crap commander. I dont mean a commander who did not manage to make correct descisions and was good enough to lead his squads into an organized tactic. I simply mean a commander who took the the position to play rambo with artillery and get himself UAV and supplies.

Not having a microphone, he replied to my tenth 10th order request by typing "no orders needed, do what you want". After this i could not get a reply to from the commander. I told him through the mic that his duty was to coordinate the squads and give order and intel. No reply. Through the game i saw the commander, sniping from a hill, riding a tank to the frontline (getting blown up) and even flying a jet. Numerous attempts was made of mutiny, we were like 5 people taking turns initinating it.

I realized that not even once,playing public servers, have i witnessed a succesfull mutiny. Last time on TG server i saw something like "xx voted yes, 40 votes needed. Commander stays". How does this work, if there is 30 people on our team how could there be required 40 votes? (maybe this was not a mutiny vote, maybe it was a kick vote)

Anyhow, my suggestions are:

1. In the server text when you load the map, add to the instructions: "Commander must stay safe and communicate with squad leaders, giving support and orders. Commander Should have a microphone"

2. If possible, modify the server to require less votes for a succesfull mutiny. Ive never seen an unjust mutiny on TG servers.

3. Im not a hundred % sure about this but i would like to discuss the fact if it shoulde be required for commanders and SL o have microphones. When i play on TG is for the tactics and strategy, and typing sucks....

Give me your opinions guys.

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Pokerface

The amount of text that can be put in the box is deceiving. Even though it looks like there's a lot of room left, it's bumping on its limit.

I see unjust mutinies all the time. Well, I DID; I'll be the first to admit it's been a bit since I've logged more playing time than coding time.

SLs perhaps. COs don't need it, IMHO; the broad strokes they deal in don't require the finesse that VOIP offers. In all cases though, it's communication that's key, in my personal book, regardless of how it happens.

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SmokingTarpan

When I do play, I still see random mutiny votes for no apparent reason. I'd be careful with changing this.

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Bailattelo, in cases like this it's best to be on teamspeak and report this to an admin.
http://www.tacticalgamer.com/battlefield-2-official-announcements/57294-announcement-how-report-problematic-player.html

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CeeKay

Join a different squad then. I understand we're all for realism, teamwork, love of the properly placed rifle shot, and hot improv tactics dripping with fresh communication, but hardware requirements? Ick. It is possible to have a good leader who just grunts and points. Heck I lead sometimes and thats barely what I do, and I DO have a mic.

Course... i'm not a SM... so... Sure! MICS for everyone! And ... kick'em if they don't use the preapproved microphone speaking protocol!

Napalmenator

We have a mic speaking protocol??? i think i missed that one..

and having a not so great commander sucks i agree.. but luckily i have never had the same bad one twice in a row on TG. so just wait it out... next map will probably be different.

Dark Viper

I have to say this, a bad commander is better than no commander at all. Was playing Kubra Dam the other day at around 3pm central time on #1 so most of the regular players wern't on yet. We had no commander for about 20 minutes so somebody that I have never seen before takes up the role. He doesn't have a mic so he just types in "Just do whatever you want but ask for arty and stuff if you need it". He didn't give orders but did drop us supplies and give us UAV when we needed it. He was running around on foot alot too but I wasn't going to complain. Most of the commanders who run around will just resign if you say that you want to be commander.

Pokerface

Given that the SOP forum is required reading, and the radio SOPs are at the top, I don't see how you could have missed that.

While not a rule, there IS a published protocol we encourage people to use.

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Napalmenator

i didnt have a mic when i started play here so probably didnt read it.

Edit: It has been read and understood