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Old 04-30-2008, 05:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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complete offtop, but I need a little help.

Sorry in advance for off top.
We had an argue in a Russian military forum about Georgian army. And one guy brought some opinion from US military forum. So the point is- some Georgian dudes start arguing that the guy who post is not an American trying to say that he is some kind of Russian provoker. Still, as for me English is a second language, and I want your opinion. Mark me mistakes if any PLZ.

Actually this will change nothing according to this guy nickname he might be Dominican, but I just want to see where he made common ESL mistakes.

BTW. If u do not know Georgia wants to enter NATO and at a same time want to receive back some independent(in fact) provinces. Russia oppose it. So there is some huge possibility of some BF2/PoE2 scenario in a closest future as Georgian government behave itself quite aggressive and unstable at all.

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While they may dress in uniforms similar to the US, and some of them have US weapons, they aren't even close to US troops. Of the Georgian units I've seen, only the Commandos had any disciple. The regular units had SERIOUS disciple problems. They stole any and everything they could get a hold of, including the radio and antenna mount off of the HMMWV the NCOIC of their MiTT was driving. When confronted, their commander claimed innocence until the NCOIC told them they would get nothing else from the US military until his equipment was returned. So it "magically" appeared that night.

In Kuwait, they were routinely caught steeling from other units, they broke into shipping containers to steel MREs, and uniforms, many of them got caught steeling form the PX, they set several structures on fire because they were smoking in no smoking areas, etc., etc. Until they can get their sh*t together, there's no way in hell they should be allowed into NATO.

"So you have had experience with Georgian units? interesting, thanks.
Contradicts the claims some people make about Georgian army being ready to take back Ossetia and Abkhazia because of some US aid."

As I said, the Commando battalion was very disciplined and well led, but they were still equipped with older soviet era weapons (And they did have quite few female hotties). As for the other units, I wouldn't trust them to run the fry station at McDonalds. Their officers were garbage, and hey had no NCOs to speak of. They seemed more interested in what they could beg, barrow or steal from the US. The only reason many of them were here was because they get a supplement to their pay from the US. Most of the officers seemed to out to fatten their own wallets on the backs of their troops.

They need to make clean sweep of the officer corps, actually form a NCO corps, and enforce discipline in the units (that doesn't mean you beat your soldiers, but lead by example). It's a little hard when your officers treat their troops like peasants. They'll never show them any respect, you can't lead by fear alone.

At a minimum, it'll take them five years to weed out the old guard, and start replacing them with a better trained officer corps. If they start now, it'll take five to ten years before they have a seasoned NCO corps within their enlisted ranks, and these guys will be the backbone of any force they field. Until they do, they need to stay as far away from NATO as possible. From what I've seen, if I were the Russians, I wouldn't be worrying about them starting a war, but I would be checking my pockets to see if I still had my wallet, or if the tires were still on my car in the morning.
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Re: complete offtop, but I need a little help.

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Re: complete offtop, but I need a little help.

Thank you. It is just misspelling. Nothing stylewise?
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Re: complete offtop, but I need a little help.

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While they may dress in uniforms similar to the US, and some of them have US weapons, they aren't even close to US troops. Of the Georgian units I've seen, only the Commandos had any discipline. The regular units had SERIOUS discipline problems. They stole any and everything they could get a hold of, including the radio and antenna mount off of the HMMWV the NCOIC of their MiTT was driving. When confronted, their commander claimed innocence until the NCOIC told them they would get nothing else from the US military until his equipment was returned. So it "magically" appeared that night.

In Kuwait, they were routinely caught stealing from other units, they broke into shipping containers to steal MREs, and uniforms, many of them got caught stealing from the PX, they set several structures on fire because they were smoking in no smoking areas, etc., etc. Until they can get their sh*t together, there's no way in hell they should be allowed into NATO.

"So you have had experience with Georgian units? interesting, thanks.
Contradicts the claims some people make about Georgian army being ready to take back Ossetia and Abkhazia because of some US aid."

As I said, the Commando battalion was very disciplined and well led, but they were still equipped with older soviet era weapons (And they did have quite few female hotties). As for the other units, I wouldn't trust them to run the fry station at McDonalds. Their officers were garbage, and they had no NCOs to speak of. They seemed more interested in what they could beg, borrow or steal from the US. The only reason many of them were there was because they get a supplement to their pay from the US. Most of the officers seemed to out to fatten their own wallets on the backs of their troops.

They need to make a clean sweep of the officer corps, actually form a NCO corps, and enforce discipline in the units (that doesn't mean you beat your soldiers, but lead by example). It's a little hard when your officers treat their troops like peasants. They'll never show them any respect, you can't lead by fear alone.

At a minimum, it'll take them five years to weed out the old guard, and start replacing them with a better trained officer corps. If they start now, it'll take five to ten years before they have a seasoned NCO corps within their enlisted ranks, and these guys will be the backbone of any force they field. Until they do, they need to stay as far away from NATO as possible. From what I've seen, if I were the Russians, I wouldn't be worrying about them starting a war, but I would be checking my pockets to see if I still had my wallet, or if the tires were still on my car in the morning.
I put words that were misspelled in red and spelled them correctly. I didn't see any style problems.

Interesting read. I didn't even know Georgia wanted to join NATO, and you're right, they don't sound ready to join at all.
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