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Discussion: Battlefield 2 / Battlefield 2 - Point of Existence Discussion - Weapons charts for PoE2 and other mods - http://shormanm.home.mchsi.com/bf2-chart.xls Confirms what I thought about the VEPR being far superior to the assault gun
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    Weapons charts for PoE2 and other mods

    http://shormanm.home.mchsi.com/bf2-chart.xls

    Confirms what I thought about the VEPR being far superior to the assault gun on the german side. Also the Ukraine side seems to get a much better sniper rifle as well.

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    Re: Weapons charts for PoE2 and other mods

    Are they implying something?

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    Re: Weapons charts for PoE2 and other mods

    Yikes... Medic gun and spec ops gun do the same amount of damage as the VEPR?

    Ukraine gets more powerful guns throughout. They are quasi balanced by their generally crappy sights/scopes though.

    Looks like the Ukraine sniper and assault is undoubtedly better than the german counterpart though. While the engineer and support are undoubtedly better for the german side.

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    Re: Weapons charts for PoE2 and other mods

    When is Desert Conflict coming out anyway?



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    Re: Weapons charts for PoE2 and other mods

    wow, nice info man!
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    This might explain why I feel like superman in one gaming session and then the next day I feel like I am dying every time someone looks my way.
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    Re: Weapons charts for PoE2 and other mods

    Quote Originally Posted by BHack View Post
    While the engineer and support are undoubtedly better for the german side.
    The default support guns are pretty much the same. The stats don't vary all that much to make one more superior to the other. The German support pickup MG-3 is more powerful, however you cannot resupply. I would rather have unlimited ammo than more bullet damage.
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    Re: Weapons charts for PoE2 and other mods

    Quote Originally Posted by BaneII View Post
    The default support guns are pretty much the same. The stats don't vary all that much to make one more superior to the other. The German support pickup MG-3 is more powerful, however you cannot resupply. I would rather have unlimited ammo than more bullet damage.
    The stats don't vary that much but you get a scope with the german one, making it undoubtedly superior.

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    Re: Weapons charts for PoE2 and other mods

    Quote Originally Posted by BHack View Post
    The stats don't vary that much but you get a scope with the german one, making it undoubtedly superior.
    It's a scope, yes, but it's no sniper rifle. I havent found any real difference between the two guns and I've been playing support 98% of the time since the game has come out. You still have the effect of blocking your field of vision when using the scope so that is a con. But in terms of marksmanship, a real supporter can hit long range with either scope or iron sights. I can snipe long range just as well with the RPK on single shot.
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    Re: Weapons charts for PoE2 and other mods

    In my experience so far:

    Sniper - Ukraine by alot

    Special Forces - not much experience

    Assault - Ukraine by a long shot

    Support - German because of the scope. It's almost a high ROF assault rifle with a bit lower accuracy

    Medic - German. Again the scope is invaluable.

    Engineer - Not much experience with either side. German seems to be more powerful though

    Anittank - Can't really say much rocket wise. I'm biased towards German because i like the model more . MP7 also seems like a better gun to get you out of trouble.

    The VEPR is by far the most effective infantry weapon in the game imo. Especially on a map like Fallen where the first few shots are critical.
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    Re: Weapons charts for PoE2 and other mods

    When I get gunned down by a VERP, it's very frustrating. I would fully understand if it was balanced, even a little more powerful, but it is clearly more powerful and even more accurate than the SpecOps gun it seem like. Assault and Sniper are the 2 infantry killers and both go Ukraine by a long shot.

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    Re: Weapons charts for PoE2 and other mods

    Quote Originally Posted by BaneII View Post
    It's a scope, yes, but it's no sniper rifle. I havent found any real difference between the two guns and I've been playing support 98% of the time since the game has come out. You still have the effect of blocking your field of vision when using the scope so that is a con. But in terms of marksmanship, a real supporter can hit long range with either scope or iron sights. I can snipe long range just as well with the RPK on single shot.
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    I guess I shouldn't have said "undoubtedly superior". I thought it was a widely held opinion that being able to zoom without your vision blocked was better than not zooming with your vision blocked. I see that it makes no difference to you, my B.

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    Re: Weapons charts for PoE2 and other mods

    Quote Originally Posted by Acid View Post
    When I get gunned down by a VERP, it's very frustrating. I would fully understand if it was balanced, even a little more powerful, but it is clearly more powerful and even more accurate than the SpecOps gun it seem like. Assault and Sniper are the 2 infantry killers and both go Ukraine by a long shot.
    The VEPR is sick. On fallen I truly believe that the Ukraine team has an advantage.

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    Re: Weapons charts for PoE2 and other mods

    Quote Originally Posted by Steel_Penguin View Post
    Medic - Ukraine. Again the scope is invaluable.
    Youre thinking of the german medic rifle my friend. The ukraine medic rifle only has iron sights.



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    Re: Weapons charts for PoE2 and other mods

    Quote Originally Posted by Snail88 View Post
    Youre thinking of the german medic rifle my friend. The ukraine medic rifle only has iron sights.
    Haha you're right. Meant German.
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