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    Thumbs down Side switching

    Not sure if this is the proper place to bring it up, but is there anything that can be done about Automatic side switching in POE? I get these wonderful squads when I'm squad leading. We rock for maybe 1 or 2 maps then the server starts grabbing my guys (and girls Penguineer) and throwing them on the other team. Very frustrating. I understand the whole "one sided victory" where your side dominates map after map after map, and I make it a point to get the admin to switch us, so i dont think you can use this argument to warrant team switching. Sorry if this is whinning but as SL, it is my number one bug!!

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    Re: Side switching

    Tell your squaddies to stop dying! lol j/k
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    Re: Side switching

    Autobalance is both a blessing and a curse, it keeps the teams balanced, but causes you to get teamswitched away from your squad and also unable to join the right team when pub raiding.
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    Re: Side switching

    Quote Originally Posted by B. Clawhammer View Post
    Tell your squaddies to stop dying! lol j/k
    Ouch.

    But yeah... I don't know if there can be a "good" solution since the automatic switch usually happens to keep the teams balanced numberwise, not skill or fun-wise (Yay! New word!). It's not like we can script the server to hold off switches until an annoying player or a lone wolf dies.... or is there?

    Oh, and sorry about getting bumped from the squad yesterday, Experiment. I actually wasn't teamswitched. I was running to revive your lifeless body from the clutches of death when I was removed for a supporting member.

    I guess you just weren't meant to live

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    Re: Side switching

    We are working on getting a more relaxed auto-balance going.
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    Re: Side switching

    The more relaxed one is in place. It's the best we can do. The more players that are on, the larger the spread allowed between the two teams before the autoswitch. But there is still a limit needed, and it does get eclipsed.



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    Re: Side switching

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenguineer View Post
    Ouch.


    Oh, and sorry about getting bumped from the squad yesterday, Experiment. I actually wasn't teamswitched. I was running to revive your lifeless body from the clutches of death when I was removed for a supporting member.

    I guess you just weren't meant to live

    Ahhh so that's what happened. I think i was taking you for granted, I actually started dying after you left!! I'm squad leader, I'm not supposed to die! THat's what squadies are for.... Thanks for the game.

    And thanks for the info admin type guys, I just thought I'd throw it out there and get some feedback. Guess I just have to live with it. Hope it isn't that bad with 2142....

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    Re: Side switching

    2142? Heh.. Expect all to be worse. You will likely not have many people in your squad in the first place, since we can't run custom scripts on a ranked server.



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    Re: Side switching

    Quote Originally Posted by Tempus View Post
    2142? Heh.. Expect all to be worse. You will likely not have many people in your squad in the first place, since we can't run custom scripts on a ranked server.
    I have to admit I have not been keeping up with the 2142 threads, but are we going to be running admin with 2142 that will be able to take care of the real smacktards? Again plus out to admin, I know you guys don't get to "play" near as much as you would like.

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    Re: Side switching

    The real problem with the auto switch is what causes it. Win or lose I rather be ina good squad. I've switched teams to get on a the more teamwork oriented side. SOmetimes it's even the losing team, but it's more fun to play in the good squad than just get a mystical "W".

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    Re: Side switching

    We will find out soon enough how 2142 turns out.

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    Re: Side switching

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenguineer View Post
    Ouch.

    But yeah... I don't know if there can be a "good" solution since the automatic switch usually happens to keep the teams balanced numberwise, not skill or fun-wise (Yay! New word!). It's not like we can script the server to hold off switches until an annoying player or a lone wolf dies.... or is there?

    Oh, and sorry about getting bumped from the squad yesterday, Experiment. I actually wasn't teamswitched. I was running to revive your lifeless body from the clutches of death when I was removed for a supporting member.

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    Re: Side switching

    It just seems like the switching isnt random. I've had up to three members switched out of my squad during the course of one round. And even when they've come back, the same people will get switched again. I'm curious as to how it decides who to switch.
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    Re: Side switching

    There's auto switch and there's manual admin switch, as far as I know. I think auto switch just takes the most recent dead player and moves them over.

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    Re: Side switching

    Yeah, when it needs to switch someone it just waits for the next person to die.
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