Originally Posted by Santa

Keep in mind how stacked the teams were in that particular Songhua round. I was commanding with Luckyshot, Beatnik, Sawviper, and another decent SL. All of their squads had capable squad members. I even completely left the two back bases undefended for 15 minutes and the Germans hardly made an attempt for it, despite having a transport chopper and plenty of light vehicles to flank at the far north.

Your comments might be realized, but i think we shouldnt jump to conclusions quite yet until we have a truly even playing field. Luckily, though, the armor is APCs and not tanks. Two AT shots to the back or sides will kill it.

The quality of the players had nothing to do with the quantity of armor. Our squad captured the SW flag twice and both times got overran by four APC's. Nor did the quality of players prevent the APC's from blindly firing into our flag from the Temple flag killing people as they spawned in. Saying two AT shots to the back of an APC takes it down while people were dying while spawning is useless (plus I sincerely doubt that the majority players are unaware how to kill armor). Just as capturing rear flags while the armor that spawns there is already in enemy hands is useless. In POE2, infantry is not enough to take out marauding groups of armor when there is no place to hide. There is a reason that DICE included anti-tank guns in the game and on that map. The elimination of those weapons changes the balance of power between infantry and armor.

The German team did have it victories during play last night, so even with your roster Ukraine still had it's losses. However, Songhua was an almost 500 point blowout. That means Germany was only able to takeout 125 points while the other team eliminated 600 points. For that and the other points I've made, Soughua needs to be closely looked at. Remember, this isnt a new map. I think you would have been hard pressed indeed to get a blowout like that in vanilla.