I was dogfighting on some pub in the mig, I put up decent numbers, and nothing like a 10:1 KDR.

My opinion is that if you are getting ~10:1 in a plane, its probably A) overpowered or B) there's no formidable resistance (note: even crap-ass resistance can zerg a good pilot and kill him). Also, I am quite happy with the frogfoot nerf, I do feel the bombs are lacking in power, but thats only because of the way they are fixed on the wing. You have to aim slightly left or right (depending on which bomb) of the bomb reticule to land a direct hit - once you master that technique, you can 1 shot tanks (or get them critical). I do not think the gun needs a buff, a full burst is more than enough to wipe out a tank if you approach it correctly (doing a recon pass or 2 beforehand.)

As to this whole MiG / Frogfoot vs. Eurofighter / Tornado debate. Here is my whole skinny on it (which has been stated in depth already).

The MiG is designed for hit / run tactics and not an active "dogfight", if you dogfight in a MiG, you are dead. When I am in the MiG and find a plane, i ALWAYS have my gun selected and I manually ID enemy planes, maneuver on their six, shoot them with the gun THEN quickly select to missiles and take him down OR get him in the red zone with a single missile. If the plane takes evasive action once I fire the gun, I AB out of there and re-acquire him with missiles, as he is probably hurting and going to the main to repair.

The Frogfoot is slow as molasses, good i say, because nothing is more satisfying than seeing them overshoot you when you throttle down to LOLstallspeed and you end up shooting them up with the cannon. Altitude, the use of the environment (trees, buildings) and your lack of speed can be your best friends in the cockpit, I can't begin to count how many AIM-120s I have shaken off with responsible countermeasures and evasion techniques.

The Euro is a much bigger threat than the tornado, since the Tornado has the short-range AA rockets, and the EF has the AIM-120s. They also have less ammo than the MiG, which puts them at a disadvantage 1v1 firepower wise. If the EF runs out of AA, then the MiG can easily turn the battle in their favor. The EF AND Tornado are also screwed if they engage the frogfoot and he alerts the MiG (if they are using VOIP).

The Tornado is best suited for doing ground attack runs as it takes his entire AA to kill a plane (this figures in countermeasures). Very ammo limited.

The germans may have 1 more AA plane, but the ukrainans have an extra ground AA tank. To preempt you, the sheer presence of the shilka and SA-13 targeting you in 2 different locations of the map is more than enough for the pilot to take evasive action or send him up in the sky, where he is less useful against choppers and the FROGFOOT.


The best weapons against planes though are knowledge and communication, not an arbitrary number of units.

My 2 cents.