Originally Posted by ikonic

lmao blood, how was that 4-35 score?

Couple things I noticed that was happening during the match that shouldn't have happened:

The SA-7 was NEVER used to shake us up. As Whiskey said, even locking on us without ammo shakes up a chopper pilot and makes them take corrective action. It is an excellent area denial and psychological weapon.

The 2 shilkas were used in a solo manner. The most effective way of using the Shilkas on Blue Nile is to pair them together near some cover (but not next to each other where a salvo of hydras can wipe them out). We can only engage and effectively evade 1 shilka at a time. Throwing the SA-7 in the mix will make us think twice of going in that particular area. For example, Bane and a lot of the 33rd like to establish a Shilka and the SA-7 around the village.

The Ukrainians did not actively go for the US main! If you can't stand the chopper, deny access to it completely! Only one time did a squad go for the US main. We had lost it at a vital time as well, we had just recently got shot down and when they were lowering the flag, the cobra spawned. A person JUMPED IN THE COBRA, went in the gunner position and then proceeded to JUMP OUT OF THE COBRA when i fired a SRAW into it. I then hi-tailed it to the chopper gun and blew him away when he was on the flag. The US flag also goes down very slowly, so having an entire sqd on the flag is most effective.

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Symmetrical maps get very old; Granted, it's the most balanced, but takes less teamwork and effort to win as opposed to an asymmetrical map like Blue Nile and Crimea (32). The weapons and tactics are there in the map, they are just more subtle. Asymmetrical maps emphasizes better use of the environment, weapon platforms and communication. None of those 3 were apparent last night.

Theres plenty of AA on Blue Nile - 2 Shilkas, the SA-7, DOZERS, Tanks...

I'm sorry, but the ukrainians let themselves get hosed by the cobra by not employing an effective defense against it.

I think your post pretty much sums it up. It seems that rounds which are won by whatever team I am on comes down to employing an effective defense and maintaining your defense throughout the game instead of the lone wolf approach.

Take yesterday and our defense of Camp. Yall had me go pick up the SA-7 and from that point the choppers were shaken and changed there approach. It helped to allow us control of that point for the remainder of the map. I may not have racked up kills but hitting the chopper and watching it run away while smoking was very satisfying indeed.