PR Dev Journal. - Page 45

brain21 · 08-27-2008, 04:44 PM

Ahh, that makes more sense, Zao.

**Waldo_II** · 08-27-2008, 09:59 PM

Well, its time for this thread to go down to the bottom for now. With the release of 0.8, I think we will be busy with the new stuff to look forward to .85.

*Salutes thread*

So long, dev journal. You shall be missed.

brain21 · 08-27-2008, 10:00 PM

It'll come back.

Pwn3ge · 08-27-2008, 10:17 PM

*salutes* Try to keep it updated on things devs leak...

Sabre_Tooth_Tigger · 08-28-2008, 01:36 AM

Sure, but isnt there another thread - Stuff you can do in the new version but didnt realise

http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196...ap-ramiel.html

starstriker1 · 08-28-2008, 02:24 AM

Checked out the changelog... I just noticed the new asset deployment and rally point rules. Using the supply crates for building instead of the trucks should be neat, but the whole "overrun" mechanic on the rally points is going to be really interesting. It'll certainly get rid of the battles being fought from the rally points themselves...

Damnit, Saturday can't come soon enough.

**Ghost Dog** · 08-28-2008, 03:58 AM

I was hoping for more than 5 new maps, but I have to admit each one of them looks amazing. Any word on Basrah and the other insurgency map (can't remember name right now)? Have they been fixed and will they be included in 0.8?

Can't believe I 'm spending the weekend in the Ardennes... I had a feeling they would do this.

Gameplay changes in 0.8 (from the manual):

3 new game modes: Command & Control, Skirmish and Training
Critically wounded soldiers can be revived for up to two minutes. They can use the “Give up” button on the Caps-Lock map to opt out of waiting for a medic
Medics can now resuscitate downed soldiers which untangles them from the
ground. This is useful to make sure the epipen will do it's job
Insurgents can build hideouts to spawn at
Regular armies and the militia can deploy a heavy machine gun emplacement
The spotting system has been overhauled. Automatic spotting is practically gone. Squad leaders can send a contact report to the commander. The commander can confirm those reports and place markers on the map to warn the rest of the team
Artillery and mortars have been added to the list of possible area attacks
Pistols & SMGs do not suppress other players. Shots also need to travel some distance before they have a suppression effect
Weapons need to be reloaded manually
Bunkers & Fire bases do not resupply soldiers and vehicles anymore
Deployable assets can be placed without permission if no commander is on the team
Rally points can be placed anywhere. They are overrun and destroyed if 3 enemies get close to them or if 6 squad members die in their vincinity
Grenade launchers need to be fired at targets at least 30-40m from the shooter or the grenade will not detonate
All factions have a command post which is enterable by the commander. The commander can only use his map while inside the post.
The enemy tickets are not displayed
The main gun in any armored vehicle has a 30s usage delay
Soldiers start to bleed out when their health drops below 75%
Civilian collaborators will always respawn after 2 minutes regardless of how they died
Insurgents can be arrested using the restrainer or the shotgun
Insurgents need to defend at least 3 out of 12 weapons caches
Capturing a control point takes at least 3 men
Limited kits have been reduced in number and are only reallocated every 10 minutes
Light machine guns can be used in deployed and undeployed modes. When deployed they can only be fired while prone but are very accurate
Deploying bunkers & fire bases does require 2 supply crates. A supply truck is not needed. Other assets just need to be build close enough to a forward
outpost and do not require any supplies

WOW

No more ammo from bunkers and firebases? Makes no sense to me... tanks on Kashan will have to go ALL the way back to main for ammo, don't really like this change.
I have a feeling that we won't see many commanders, how many people like sitting back at main for 2 hours? I only do this when I have a very good team to work with and this rarely happens.
Get those field dressings ready... bleed starts below 75%.
What 's that restrainer to arrest insurgents? any info on this?
Enemy tickets not displayed... no more stalemates??

I 'm sure it 'll all work out fine just like the previous versions, but some of the changes sound really harsh.

Edit:

If you don't feel like reading the entire manual to look for all the changes, I made a list of all changes that aren't mentioned above (note the bold parts):

While holding a mine the primary commo rose can be used to place a red warning marker on the team's map. Placing a new Marker will delete the old one. The commander also can place and delete this marker
A temporary spawn time penalty which only affects the next time you die (stacking up to 5 minutes) is added by these actions:
○ Teamkill: 15 seconds per TK
○ Suicide: 30 seconds (90s for civilians)
○ Civilian killed: 120 seconds per civilian (max. 5 minutes)
○ Own weapons cache destroyed: 300 seconds (also -100 score)
Anti-tank mines and trip flares will arm themselves 15 seconds after placement - think this was 5 seconds before
The Combat Engineer carries an assault rifle with iron sights, a shotgun loaded with slugs, a tripflare, an anti-tank mine, a wrench and a shovel. On some maps the mine is replaced by a grappling hook
The Militia Medic comes equipped with the PPSh-41 submachine gun, and some smoke grenades. Healing and reviving works as with the regular medic - Militia gets to revive
The Insurgent carries the AK-47 rifle, one RKG-3 anti-tank grenade, a shovel, a pair of binoculars and some extra ammunition in a bag, which he can drop
The civilian Collaborator is unarmed. His only way to attack others is by throwing rocks at them. He can drop a few field dressings for his friends and repair vehicles with his wrench. He can also help others access high places with his grappling hook. He can use his cellphone to call in mortar strikes. Coalition players must not shoot civilians or face punishment
As more intelligence is gathered red diamond markers appear on the map showing the rough area of the weapons caches (they may be up to 140m from the marker)
Insurgents start with 100 tickets and lose 10 for each destroyed weapons cache. This is the only way for the insurgents to lose tickets.
On sniper rifles, the "switch fire mode" key (Default 3) can be used to activate a breathing sound. This simulates breath control and gives you an audio cue for when your accuracy will be at its maximum. Holding down the fire button after shooting will allow you to track your shot before rebolting the rifle
If you use an officer kit containing a signal grenade, you can access it with the 9 key
If 3 enemies are very close to the rally point (about 50m) or if 6 squad members die in this radius, then the rally has been overrun and will also be destroyed. Once destroyed, the squad can't place a new rally point for 2 minutes
Deployable MG 's, AA, razorwire and sandbags must be constructed within 200m of a forward outpost
Deployable assets can be wrecked (rendering them useless) and destroyed by further damaging the wreck. Knifing the radio twice will damage forward outposts enough to make them collapse within a short time.
Supply trucks can unload two supply crates which can be dropped by the driver by using the alternate fire key.

[R-PUB]bosco · 08-28-2008, 06:12 AM

Insurgency maps have been fixed.

Looking forward to seeing Operation Archer on TG...

**d1sp0sabl3H3r0** · 08-28-2008, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [R-PUB]bosco

Insurgency maps have been fixed.

Looking forward to seeing Operation Archer on TG...

Looking forward to seeing *any* of the new maps on TG.

Just remember, these changes bring teamwork to the front like never before.

It's going to be a great weekend!!!

**Ghost Dog** · 08-28-2008, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

RKG stands for Ruchnaya Kumulyativnaya Granata (Handheld Shaped Charge Grenade). When the pin is pulled and the grenade is thrown a four-panelled drogue parachute is deployed by a spring. This parachute stabilizes the grenade in flight and ensures that the grenade strikes the target at a 90 degree angle, maximising the effect of the shaped charge.

Sounds cool doesn't it

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Eavy Gunner · 08-28-2008, 10:02 AM

How much damage will these grenades do against an average apc?

Top Cat AJA · 08-28-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Dog

[*]Limited kits have been reduced in number and are only reallocated every 10 minutes
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A great set of changes but my euphoria will be some what dampened if my squad or fireteam cant always jump into the mix with a LMG and a GL. There was only just enough LMGs to go around a full 32 player team in 0.7, 5 to be exact.

I really do need alittle more faith dont i...so ill trust you DEvs that you just "skimped" instead on on the snipers, AAs, HATs, LATs, Marksmen, SLs (lol), Pilots and Crewmen kits. : )

**Superfast** · 08-28-2008, 10:28 AM

The new kit limits will make us value our lives more and that means better teamwork!

google · 08-28-2008, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OkitaMakoto

Ramiel

Ramiel
1024x2
US Army vs Insurgents
Insurgency/Skirmish gamemodes

Hey guys and gals,
With the recent information on the release of .8 to the public I figured it was time to give a little info on Ramiel, one of the many new maps in this release. Project Reality's .8 release really shines when it comes to new and exciting maps, so I'm truly honored to be releasing Ramiel along with amazing works of art like Korengal, Muttrah 2.0, and Op. Barracuda.

Ramiel was initiated on a total whim with no intent on its being in PR. It was nearing the end of my 2006-2007 school year and class work was becoming light. To combat the boredom I took up what would be my first mapping project, hoping to eventually find a server willing to give me at least a day's play time on my new urban map. I began making a map that would 'strangely' resemble war torn Mogadishu and the events portrayed in the book/movie Black Hawk Down[sorry, no fastropes]. The task was daunting, mainly due to it being my first map and the BF editor's[and my own] finer points: crashes 7 times a day, corrupt files, losing hours of work, making the noobiest of noob mistakes[many of which I'm sure are still in the .8 version] the list goes on.

Here are some lulzy old WIP pics from almost a year ago:

But, slowly but surely, the map began to take shape. Being my first map, I was in constant need of help. IronTaxi, Fuzzhead, Rhino, Dr Rank, and Coderedfox all offered countless suggestions, fixes, tweaks, points of advice, statics, words of wisdom, you name it. From the very beginning, my first attempt at a map was lucky enough to get a good deal of help from some of the most skilled people around. It was this extraordinary amount of help that made it even remotely possible. Without their help, Ramiel would still look absolutely ridiculous and would be nowhere near the quality a map that PR has come to be known for.

But enough of the cheesy backstory... Here's the final Minimap:

And a few other screens

Ramiel features the newly included US Army searching for weapons caches inside a large “2 part” city. The eastern side of the city is a war torn, trash filled, grass overgrown, pot holed nightmare of a place to find your humvee breaking down. There are countless alleyways and corners perfect for setting up an IED/RPG ambush. In a somewhat stark contrast to the east, the newer western side of the city is much more friendly to US Army vehicles [2 Strykers are on a delayed spawn at the Airport, one Black Hawk, one AH-6, and an MH-6], with wide streets, less roadblocks, an open market place, and less noticeable damage to the streets than in the east.

The US Army infantry will need to make good use of transportation helicopters and humvees/Strykers support as they move through the city. From the very beginning I was opposed to tanks and APC's on this map, so it really rewards the infantry squads that stick together and tactically make their way throughout the city hunting weapons caches.

On the Insurgent side, you will have a number of weapons at the main base, a handful of technicals, a small number of suicide cars, and the like. Basically all you need to kill the infidels

So, in closing, I hope you enjoy my first of hopefully many more PR maps to come, go easy the still-nooby-mapper, and have fun! :P

Pretty cool stuff, this map looks like it will be alot better than Basrah in my opinion.
Here is a link to the official update so you can see the pics: http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196...ap-ramiel.html

BigGaayAl · 08-28-2008, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Cat AJA

A great set of changes but my euphoria will be some what dampened if my squad or fireteam cant always jump into the mix with a LMG and a GL. There was only just enough LMGs to go around a full 32 player team in 0.7, 5 to be exact.

I really do need alittle more faith dont i...so ill trust you DEvs that you just "skimped" instead on on the snipers, AAs, HATs, LATs, Marksmen, SLs (lol), Pilots and Crewmen kits. : )

God do I hear you there. I hope they haven't gone this way again. This is my number one problem in the current version. Kits fly all over the place and there are to many rules so that you cannot get a good squad loadout. It is very rare to be able to request all the kits you need. It seems that the little details on guns and choppers etc are more important then what weapons your squad consist of. I'd rather have a 10 minute respawn on people then on automatic rifleman kits. Let's hope they were sharp enough to only do the 10 min for the kiddie-kits. Also need more faith

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