Death Cam discussion...

**w.WAREHOUSE** · 01-17-2008, 08:43 PM

Has there ever been talk by devs to remove the death cam?
Seems very unrealistic for a reality mod to have players shouting out after they die: "2 infantry coming from your north!" etc.

Any way we could make the screen go black after you die? or bring up the map or squad screen so that players can't ghost when they die?

**IcemanGER** · 01-17-2008, 09:05 PM

There was a discussion about it awhile back. Too lazy to search for it.

I agree, when the player is DEAD, he shouldn't be able to call out enemy's !

**Grunt 70** · 01-17-2008, 09:09 PM

I'm of the same mind...I so wish the community would embrace a a "dead men don't talk" policy, though I find myself breaking that one too often.

**llPANCHOll** · 01-17-2008, 09:17 PM

I concur.. even though I often use this, if we are striving for reality this should be fixed.

TeflonDon · 01-17-2008, 11:30 PM

Yeah I think that every time I die and start blowing up their spots, or vice versa.

**Nero** · 01-17-2008, 11:47 PM

Yeah I find death cam kind of annoying. I know that people (including myself) relay tactical movements of the enemy back to their squad with deathcam.

It also means that when I kill an enemy and know that their are more around, I have to move away from the corpse or risk having my position reported by the dead guy which in itself is an unrealistic reason for tactical re-positioning.

There was a lot of discussion about deathcam in COD4 when it came out to turn the server setting off to make it more realistic...

Elwenil · 01-18-2008, 12:35 AM

I kind of have to agree with this, although I frequently find myself getting surprised and killed and I excitedly shout out the enemy locations. If I remember correctly, back when my former clan was allied with TG and TG used our Ghost Recon server a few nights, we were not allowed to talk after being killed. I remember Luna giving us all hell about talking after we were dead. Of course that was on a no respawn game.

I'm sort of surprised that BF2 doesn't mute the mic when a player is killed. I can understand someone calling out intel when Critically Wounded, but after being killed, it's almost a cheat. I wonder if the game couldn't be configured to mute the mic when a player is killed? Or that may also kill the mic before the game starts and there goes any squad planning out the window. Something to think about.

**Portable.Cougar** · 01-18-2008, 12:43 AM

When you bleed out the screen could just fade to black

Dead players need their mic as the SL needs to call out next respawn point if say your squad was whiped out and has to change spawns.

**thegreatnardini** · 01-18-2008, 12:59 AM

They should just implement the Goldeneye dripping blood Death, complete with the Bond Theme jingle

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It would be a good idea to get rid of this, and I've toyed in my head with removing voip while you're killed. It would be a cool idea, but it probably wouldn't work and get annoying.

**TurkishDelight** · 01-18-2008, 02:26 AM

Black screen sounds better

**BigGaayAl** · 01-18-2008, 02:50 AM

Keep it like it is I'd say!

If anyone is so lame to use the deathcam like this, I can only laugh at them. Meanwhile I'll be getting nice warm coffee when I die.

Spectator mode is also one of the few tools the admins have left to find out who is doin what, short of going to the tedious process of watching a 4 hour Kashan BFrecorder file.

Blitzer66 · 01-18-2008, 05:04 AM

I've beena huge advocate of taking away the death cam in PR. It really REALLY screws ambush squads...as I'm sure warehouse and his wambushers will be able to tell you. Or any squad that is in a concealed position. The only issue i can see coming out of this, is maybe with the tank sound bug, not having any idea where a tank just blew up your whole squad from because you couldnt hear the shell...that that in real life it would matter cause youd be dead.

fuzzhead · 01-18-2008, 05:19 AM

its been discussed by dev team and no easy way to do it, that said it would be kickass to put up a black screen when KILLED but keep the same screen as it is now when critically wounded.

the only time it can be exploited is when you are KILLED and it either zooms out or folllows your killer, very lame and exploitable.

**Ghost Dog** · 01-18-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzhead

... or folllows your killer, very lame and exploitable.

Does that happen? I for one have never seen it before.

Wish you guys could make it blur when critically wounded and fade to black when dead, now that would be cool

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**joe98** · 01-18-2008, 08:04 AM

A few well placed teabags normally moves most people on

01-17-2008, 08:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
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01-17-2008, 09:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
IcemanGER Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 41 Posts: 344	Re: Death Cam discussion... There was a discussion about it awhile back. Too lazy to search for it. I agree, when the player is DEAD, he shouldn't be able to call out enemy's ! __________________ \|TG-X\| IcemanGER 10th Tactical Guard *Server Rules and SOP Kicked? Banned? READ THIS FIRST!Contact an Admin * Nominate your teammates for a ribbon**

01-17-2008, 09:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
Grunt 70 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Massachusetts Age: 43 Posts: 2,502	Re: Death Cam discussion... I'm of the same mind...I so wish the community would embrace a a "dead men don't talk" policy, though I find myself breaking that one too often.

01-17-2008, 09:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
llPANCHOll Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Oklahoma City, Ok Age: 37 Posts: 1,106	Re: Death Cam discussion... I concur.. even though I often use this, if we are striving for reality this should be fixed. __________________ 10th Tactical Guard Server Rules and SOP \| Kicked? Banned? READ THIS FIRST! \| Contact an Admin Expand your gaming horizons-TGU \| Nominate your teammates for a ribbon ¡¿Soy un pastor de gatos?!

01-17-2008, 11:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
TeflonDon Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Boston Age: 28 Posts: 199	Re: Death Cam discussion... Yeah I think that every time I die and start blowing up their spots, or vice versa. __________________

01-17-2008, 11:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
Nero Join Date: Oct 2007 Age: 37 Posts: 547	Re: Death Cam discussion... Yeah I find death cam kind of annoying. I know that people (including myself) relay tactical movements of the enemy back to their squad with deathcam. It also means that when I kill an enemy and know that their are more around, I have to move away from the corpse or risk having my position reported by the dead guy which in itself is an unrealistic reason for tactical re-positioning. There was a lot of discussion about deathcam in COD4 when it came out to turn the server setting off to make it more realistic... __________________

01-18-2008, 12:35 AM	#7 (permalink)
Elwenil Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Covington, VA USA Age: 34 Posts: 1,227	Re: Death Cam discussion... I kind of have to agree with this, although I frequently find myself getting surprised and killed and I excitedly shout out the enemy locations. If I remember correctly, back when my former clan was allied with TG and TG used our Ghost Recon server a few nights, we were not allowed to talk after being killed. I remember Luna giving us all hell about talking after we were dead. Of course that was on a no respawn game. I'm sort of surprised that BF2 doesn't mute the mic when a player is killed. I can understand someone calling out intel when Critically Wounded, but after being killed, it's almost a cheat. I wonder if the game couldn't be configured to mute the mic when a player is killed? Or that may also kill the mic before the game starts and there goes any squad planning out the window. Something to think about. __________________ \|TG\|Elwenil StullUnlimited.com Offroad Parts and Fabrication

01-18-2008, 12:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
Portable.Cougar Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: So. California Posts: 575	Re: Death Cam discussion... When you bleed out the screen could just fade to black Dead players need their mic as the SL needs to call out next respawn point if say your squad was whiped out and has to change spawns. __________________ \|TG-X\| Portable.Cougar 10th Tactical Guard Server Rules and SOP \| Kicked? Banned? READ THIS FIRST! Contact an Admin \| Nominate your teammates for a ribbon

01-18-2008, 12:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
thegreatnardini Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philleh Posts: 1,625	Re: Death Cam discussion... They should just implement the Goldeneye dripping blood Death, complete with the Bond Theme jingle . It would be a good idea to get rid of this, and I've toyed in my head with removing voip while you're killed. It would be a cool idea, but it probably wouldn't work and get annoying. __________________ lTG-6thl TheGreatNardini Happy Easter \| Battlefield 2 SOP's \| Kicked? Banned? Click here!!! \| Need an admin? PM me \| XFire "Dave: I'll have plenty of time to play next month after my foot surgery. Wickens: They removing it from your mouth?"

01-18-2008, 02:26 AM	#10 (permalink)
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01-18-2008, 02:50 AM	#11 (permalink)
BigGaayAl Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: gent, belgium Posts: 1,487	Re: Death Cam discussion... Keep it like it is I'd say! If anyone is so lame to use the deathcam like this, I can only laugh at them. Meanwhile I'll be getting nice warm coffee when I die. Spectator mode is also one of the few tools the admins have left to find out who is doin what, short of going to the tedious process of watching a 4 hour Kashan BFrecorder file. __________________ Support your right to arm bears. ~Cleveland Amory I am a kind of paranoiac in reverse. I suspect people of plotting to make me happy. ~J.D. Salinger

01-18-2008, 05:04 AM	#12 (permalink)
Blitzer66 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 66	Re: Death Cam discussion... I've beena huge advocate of taking away the death cam in PR. It really REALLY screws ambush squads...as I'm sure warehouse and his wambushers will be able to tell you. Or any squad that is in a concealed position. The only issue i can see coming out of this, is maybe with the tank sound bug, not having any idea where a tank just blew up your whole squad from because you couldnt hear the shell...that that in real life it would matter cause youd be dead.

01-18-2008, 05:19 AM	#13 (permalink)
fuzzhead Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 579	Re: Death Cam discussion... its been discussed by dev team and no easy way to do it, that said it would be kickass to put up a black screen when KILLED but keep the same screen as it is now when critically wounded. the only time it can be exploited is when you are KILLED and it either zooms out or folllows your killer, very lame and exploitable. __________________

01-18-2008, 08:04 AM	#15 (permalink)
joe98 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 42	Re: Death Cam discussion... A few well placed teabags normally moves most people on Last edited by joe98; 01-18-2008 at 08:04 AM. Reason: spelling!

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