What is the official Ruling for Zatar? - Page 2

**Sabre_Tooth_Tigger** · 01-25-2008, 11:58 AM

Pheonix was a stock map

Muttrah is coming back

Steel Thunder I liked but would have been increasingly silly with so many (powerfull) tanks

Helmand - small infantry only map which is something they seem to be removing from the game I guess

On the positive side their does seem to be some great new maps around the corner, like fallujah looks excellent and lots of infantry potential

Looks here for threads with [Map] in the title

http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f66-community-modding/

http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f193...maps-work.html

fuzzhead · 01-25-2008, 04:28 PM

PR will continue to develope kickass maps, v0.8 will probably focus mainly on maps.....

As for old maps: the only PR developed map that has been removed so far has been muttrah city (which is getting a remake), the rest were BF2 community maps that PR had permission to use, but they were not developed with PR gameplay in mind and suffered from various problems. The next wave of PR maps will have alot of new custom content and have been developed specifically for PR v0.7+ gameplay in mind.

**d1sp0sabl3H3r0** · 01-25-2008, 04:48 PM

Bring it baby, bring it!!

msdz · 01-25-2008, 09:03 PM

Can LZ 2 be recaptured? I know MEC ended up one night getting the LZ1 back but when I tried along with a few other squad mates to get to LZ2 we started getting the out of bounds time ticker and turned back around.
Also, I like Zatar wetlands in PR, only thing is the carrier does need to be moved back OR the out of bounds for the MEC team needs to be farther back from the LZ zones for the US. But then again most of the time I see people from the US even swim in to the LZ zones and capture the flag quicker than APC's or heli full of troops. These are the ones that the MEC are looking for and not the infantry that swim in and are usually not noticed.

Edit: I also agree that some revamping could make some of the older maps really enjoyable.

**Sabre_Tooth_Tigger** · 01-27-2008, 12:46 PM

Made a video with zatar footage

Delta*RandyShugart* · 01-28-2008, 04:13 PM

i am digging the superman drum n bass remix...is this the one by aphrodite? wicked cool vid by the way.

**d1sp0sabl3H3r0** · 01-28-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabre_Tooth_Tigger

Made a video with zatar footage

We were on the MEC side in the match featured in the video. We were watching the approach from the north to Farm when all of a sudden an entire squadron of blackhawks comes roaring throw the valley being escorted by little birds. It was the absolute COOLEST thing I have ever seen in PR - we were all just speechless when the formation went by.

**w.WAREHOUSE** · 01-28-2008, 04:27 PM

What if we throw in a littlebird with machine guns only, no rockets. The AA wouldn't lock on them and it could scout the hills giving limited cover to APC's.

Delta*RandyShugart* · 01-28-2008, 04:51 PM

I believe i was the commander on that map, i liked the part with the mec firebase because I remember Nardini built a firebase right on the opposite side of the MEC firebase. That was the second time playing and commanding on that map (i hope one time before the next update to play as a squad member on the map) but an excellent time because it was one of the most organized time being a commander. It was excellent and a lot of fun!!

**Sabre_Tooth_Tigger** · 01-28-2008, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta*RandyShugart*

i am digging the superman drum n bass remix...is this the one by aphrodite? wicked cool vid by the way.

You guess correct, Im not sure its to everyone taste but its only a bit of fun.

Distance shots really get wrecked by the poor quality encoding of youtube, etc
See if this looks any better on a DIVX quality host

http://www.stage6.com/user/sabretoot...video/2147608/

fuzzhead · 01-28-2008, 06:28 PM

try the wegame.com too its prety good

nice vid man i liked it alot

**Sabre_Tooth_Tigger** · 01-28-2008, 07:02 PM

Yea I recorded it with wegame, I recommend it.

I'll try with the higher quality settings next time maybe

Ive recorded an entire 23 minute game with wegame with no lag and I was flying at the time & theres no limit to the video length ?

As a host its also better quality then youtube but not quite as good as stage6/divx can be, afaik

test video :
http://wegame.com/watch/jj/

Downsides would be the sound isnt right for me and I cant edit it at all if I want to retain quality or extended duration the host website offers unless someone knows the trick to that maybe

**kilroy0097** · 01-29-2008, 07:19 AM

I am in the agreement that this problem can be solved with every single carrier map by placing the carrier 100m outside the maximum AA range from the closest piece of land. This gives anyone in a helicopter a 100m buffer in which to maneuver and gain altitude to perhaps avoid or come in from another direction.

I have to also agree with Catraphact. I didn't get to play those maps in the past as it's before I discovered PR however a good map is a good map and it shouldn't be discarded due to version change. Modify and update them to fit the current version especially if they are very popular and extreme on the fun factor.

**Sabre_Tooth_Tigger** · 04-12-2008, 04:19 PM

I remember we had a problem where the 16 player version of zatar was loading even when the 64p was listed in maplist.list

Can anyone remember how that was solved or the cause of that problem because we have another server doing that right now for a scrim

I know its something to do with 16p being the only AAS version of this map

**thegreatnardini** · 04-12-2008, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabre_Tooth_Tigger

I remember we had a problem where the 16 player version of zatar was loading even when the 64p was listed in maplist.list

Can anyone remember how that was solved or the cause of that problem because we have another server doing that right now for a scrim

I know its something to do with 16p being the only AAS version of this map

If an admin accidentally adds the Zatar map listed under AAS (which is what almost every map is listed under except Zatar, Oman, Basrah, Archer, and 7 Gates) it will add the 16 version map with 64 ticket count. The "real" map is listed under counter.

I noticed another problem regarding this map yesterday. My squad was in that island directly North of Center Hill, where the MEC always sit to try to disrupt helos and APC from rolling in from the east beach. I had a firebase set up with an AA emplacement, and one of my squad mates was shooting it randomly. He had not locked onto anyone, but was just spamming it around. For some reason those missiles were hitting helicopters on the carrier over 5 grids away, and we had no idea. Cola kept asking me who was shooting them down, and it had to have been my squad since no one was even close.

01-25-2008, 11:58 AM	#16 (permalink)
Sabre_Tooth_Tigger Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: eurasia Posts: 2,212	Re: What is the official Ruling for Zatar? Pheonix was a stock map Muttrah is coming back Steel Thunder I liked but would have been increasingly silly with so many (powerfull) tanks Helmand - small infantry only map which is something they seem to be removing from the game I guess On the positive side their does seem to be some great new maps around the corner, like fallujah looks excellent and lots of infantry potential Looks here for threads with [Map] in the title http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f66-community-modding/ http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f193...maps-work.html __________________ ___________ *WWII German infantry weapons in detail* Last edited by Sabre_Tooth_Tigger; 01-25-2008 at 12:24 PM.

01-25-2008, 04:28 PM	#17 (permalink)
fuzzhead Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 542	Re: What is the official Ruling for Zatar? PR will continue to develope kickass maps, v0.8 will probably focus mainly on maps..... As for old maps: the only PR developed map that has been removed so far has been muttrah city (which is getting a remake), the rest were BF2 community maps that PR had permission to use, but they were not developed with PR gameplay in mind and suffered from various problems. The next wave of PR maps will have alot of new custom content and have been developed specifically for PR v0.7+ gameplay in mind.

01-25-2008, 04:48 PM	#18 (permalink)
d1sp0sabl3H3r0 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Suburban Chicago Age: 42 Posts: 1,419	Re: What is the official Ruling for Zatar? Bring it baby, bring it!! __________________ \|TG-X\|d1sp0sabl3 It's all MY fault, so deal with it! TG-X \| PR Server Rules \| TG SOPs \| Kicked? Banned? READ THIS FIRST! \| Contact an Admin Expand your gaming horizons - TGU \| How to nominate your teammates for a ribbon \| Thinking of putting on TG tags? READ THIS FIRST!!!! The TG Primer To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women.

01-25-2008, 09:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
msdz Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: WV Age: 36 Posts: 709	Re: What is the official Ruling for Zatar? Can LZ 2 be recaptured? I know MEC ended up one night getting the LZ1 back but when I tried along with a few other squad mates to get to LZ2 we started getting the out of bounds time ticker and turned back around. Also, I like Zatar wetlands in PR, only thing is the carrier does need to be moved back OR the out of bounds for the MEC team needs to be farther back from the LZ zones for the US. But then again most of the time I see people from the US even swim in to the LZ zones and capture the flag quicker than APC's or heli full of troops. These are the ones that the MEC are looking for and not the infantry that swim in and are usually not noticed. Edit: I also agree that some revamping could make some of the older maps really enjoyable. __________________

01-27-2008, 12:46 PM	#20 (permalink)
Sabre_Tooth_Tigger Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: eurasia Posts: 2,212	Re: What is the official Ruling for Zatar? Made a video with zatar footage __________________ ___________ *WWII German infantry weapons in detail*

01-28-2008, 04:13 PM	#21 (permalink)
DeltaRandyShugart Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: With my roomates Posts: 1,685	Re: What is the official Ruling for Zatar? i am digging the superman drum n bass remix...is this the one by aphrodite? wicked cool vid by the way.

01-28-2008, 04:27 PM	#23 (permalink)
w.WAREHOUSE Join Date: Apr 2007 Age: 31 Posts: 558	Re: What is the official Ruling for Zatar? What if we throw in a littlebird with machine guns only, no rockets. The AA wouldn't lock on them and it could scout the hills giving limited cover to APC's. __________________ In-game squad name: DEVILS

01-28-2008, 04:51 PM	#24 (permalink)
DeltaRandyShugart Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: With my roomates Posts: 1,685	Re: What is the official Ruling for Zatar? I believe i was the commander on that map, i liked the part with the mec firebase because I remember Nardini built a firebase right on the opposite side of the MEC firebase. That was the second time playing and commanding on that map (i hope one time before the next update to play as a squad member on the map) but an excellent time because it was one of the most organized time being a commander. It was excellent and a lot of fun!!

01-28-2008, 06:28 PM	#26 (permalink)
fuzzhead Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 542	Re: What is the official Ruling for Zatar? try the wegame.com too its prety good nice vid man i liked it alot

01-28-2008, 07:02 PM	#27 (permalink)
Sabre_Tooth_Tigger Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: eurasia Posts: 2,212	Re: What is the official Ruling for Zatar? Yea I recorded it with wegame, I recommend it. I'll try with the higher quality settings next time maybe Ive recorded an entire 23 minute game with wegame with no lag and I was flying at the time & theres no limit to the video length ? As a host its also better quality then youtube but not quite as good as stage6/divx can be, afaik test video : http://wegame.com/watch/jj/ Downsides would be the sound isnt right for me and I cant edit it at all if I want to retain quality or extended duration the host website offers unless someone knows the trick to that maybe __________________ ___________ *WWII German infantry weapons in detail*

01-29-2008, 07:19 AM	#28 (permalink)
kilroy0097 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bryan/College Station, TX Age: 33 Posts: 351	Re: What is the official Ruling for Zatar? I am in the agreement that this problem can be solved with every single carrier map by placing the carrier 100m outside the maximum AA range from the closest piece of land. This gives anyone in a helicopter a 100m buffer in which to maneuver and gain altitude to perhaps avoid or come in from another direction. I have to also agree with Catraphact. I didn't get to play those maps in the past as it's before I discovered PR however a good map is a good map and it shouldn't be discarded due to version change. Modify and update them to fit the current version especially if they are very popular and extreme on the fun factor. __________________ . "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

04-12-2008, 04:19 PM	#29 (permalink)
Sabre_Tooth_Tigger Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: eurasia Posts: 2,212	Solution for Zatar AAS I remember we had a problem where the 16 player version of zatar was loading even when the 64p was listed in maplist.list Can anyone remember how that was solved or the cause of that problem because we have another server doing that right now for a scrim I know its something to do with 16p being the only AAS version of this map __________________ ___________ *WWII German infantry weapons in detail*

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