More Kit changes - Page 2

**gijoe** · 02-05-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by westyfield

Me wants!
Dunno why they don't have the nice little MP7 (the teeny machine pistol from the vanilla engy kit)

Because you might as well use the German Mauser. Its tiny bullet size and its full auto capability are pretty much same as the mp7. Tiny bullets--->super fast. Same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M2yn...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0arGVi2pwz4&NR=1

Delta*RandyShugart* · 02-05-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gijoe

Because you might as well use the German Mauser. Its tiny bullet size and its full auto capability are pretty much same as the mp7. Tiny bullets--->super fast. Same.

World War II called they want their gun back.

the insurgents should stay with the H&K model, you have to put in perspective for the insurgent/militia side, what you could obtain on the black market/what is easier to smuggle.

No sense in having a brand new MP7, you have to stick with what is already mass produced.

I like the new additions, i take it they will made available for the new update?

**Terminal Boy** · 02-06-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta*RandyShugart*

I can see why even if H&K (which is a german company, i didn't know a brit company now owned it) isn't a weapon that would be used on the british team...since well, g3's and other H&K guns are used on the insurgent side. It would be nice if there was a compact brit gun for the HAT kit.

The MP7 would be a nice addition, though I can also see why it wouldn't be used for the insurgents, due to the fact that it just came out, and "insurgents" wouldn't really have the funds to go out and sneak in brand new weapons, since the weapons they use are older ak-47s and i guess in this case older g3's and mp5s etc......

The MEC chaps have G3 rifles and HK21 LMGs because H&K licensed everyone and his dog to build their own including Pakistan, Iran and Turkey. There's no reason why the fictional MEC shouldn't have the MP5 as well, since the above countries also built these under license.

Elwenil · 02-06-2008, 02:03 PM

Actually the G3 is originally a Mauser design that was carried to Spain by Ludwig Vorgrimmler (another former Mauser employee) to be completed by CETME after WWII. CETME (Centre for Technical Studies of Military Equipment) is a Spanish company who began designing rifles after WWII ended. H&K helped with later designs of the G3, but was not the originator of the design. The West German government tested the G3, then known as the CETME Model A (7.62mm), the FN FAL (G1), the SIG SG 510 (G2) and the AR10 (G4). The West German Border Guards at first adopted the G3, but later cancelled the order in 1956 in favor of the FN FAL, but the deal later fell through due to Fabrique Nationale de Herstal's refusal to allow the weapon to be licensed for production in Germany. It wasn't until 1959 that the Bundeswehr decided on the CETME rifle, but also wanted the G3 produced, under license, in Germany. after some quick deals to appease the Dutch company that owned production and sales rights outside of Spain, the G3 was produced by Rheinmetall and H&K in Germany. In 1969 H&K took over full production and later in 1977 the West German government gave production and sales rights to H&K.

So the rifle that H&K is probably most famous for, is actually not even a German rifle, but a Spanish one although it's design began at Mauser, and had been licensed out long before H&K began production.

Delta*RandyShugart* · 02-06-2008, 04:24 PM

Just like the rifle that Russia is famous for is actually modeled from a German World War II gun that was used by the N*Zis. (just hate saying and spelling out that word).

**TurkishDelight** · 02-06-2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta*RandyShugart*

Just like the rifle that Russia is famous for is actually modeled from a German World War II gun that was used by the N*Zis. (just hate saying and spelling out that word).

Some of the ideas are similar, but the gun is still much, much, different

ReaperMAC · 02-06-2008, 05:33 PM

Can't wait

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02-06-2008, 02:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
Elwenil Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Covington, VA USA Age: 34 Posts: 1,227	Re: More Kit changes Actually the G3 is originally a Mauser design that was carried to Spain by Ludwig Vorgrimmler (another former Mauser employee) to be completed by CETME after WWII. CETME (Centre for Technical Studies of Military Equipment) is a Spanish company who began designing rifles after WWII ended. H&K helped with later designs of the G3, but was not the originator of the design. The West German government tested the G3, then known as the CETME Model A (7.62mm), the FN FAL (G1), the SIG SG 510 (G2) and the AR10 (G4). The West German Border Guards at first adopted the G3, but later cancelled the order in 1956 in favor of the FN FAL, but the deal later fell through due to Fabrique Nationale de Herstal's refusal to allow the weapon to be licensed for production in Germany. It wasn't until 1959 that the Bundeswehr decided on the CETME rifle, but also wanted the G3 produced, under license, in Germany. after some quick deals to appease the Dutch company that owned production and sales rights outside of Spain, the G3 was produced by Rheinmetall and H&K in Germany. In 1969 H&K took over full production and later in 1977 the West German government gave production and sales rights to H&K. So the rifle that H&K is probably most famous for, is actually not even a German rifle, but a Spanish one although it's design began at Mauser, and had been licensed out long before H&K began production. __________________ \|TG\|Elwenil StullUnlimited.com Offroad Parts and Fabrication

02-06-2008, 04:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
DeltaRandyShugart Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: With my roomates Posts: 2,046	Re: More Kit changes Just like the rifle that Russia is famous for is actually modeled from a German World War II gun that was used by the NZis. (just hate saying and spelling out that word). __________________ BHD DeltaRandyShugart, \|USMC\|Capt.America - PR Fmr.Gov.EliotSpitzer#9 - Arma If someone isn't following SL or CO orders in game/being a smacktard report them by typing this in global chat: !REPORTING "Follow my tracers!"* *Ask not what TG can do you for you, but what you* can do for TG. 9/11 - Never Forget WWJDFTW?!**

02-06-2008, 05:33 PM	#22 (permalink)
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