austrooper

After reading the posts I have come to the conclusion that to kick someone for, voip on, but no mic is an injustice. The real issue is with players not following orders.

Another thing to note is that when people start doing somthing repeatly it sets a kind of precedent. So if people like myself keep getting kicked from squads for not using their mic. (as somtimes I cant) they will just stop playing TG PR... and is that what we really want. I wouldnt think so. As you may have guessed I want to support PR and the TG community and contibute where I can.

P.S. I use my mic on Sunday passwords night as its my day off.

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kittykatnub

I'd be guilty of doing this at times, mostly once I've gotten frustrated because of something that a person has recently done, but at times one I feel you just aren't up to standards with the rest of the squad (your having a hard time without a mic) I'll probably tell you to leave or step it up, if you can't step it up you'll have to face a kick. Each squad consists of it's squad members, if one falls behind, so do the rest.

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kilroy0097

First thing I do is do a mic check. I see who has VOIP or doesn't. For those that don't respond with voice I call out by name and tell them to type something to know they can hear me. If they do not respond after that and if there are other squads that person can join (i.e. it's not server start and low pop) I say sorry and I kick them. If you can't hear the SL then I don't need you in my squad. It's too important.

All SL, Commander, Aircraft and Armor should have VOIP turned on and a Mic. Anything less is a hindrance. Not as much as one manning a tank because you can still at least type but you better type fast. Seconds is all it takes sometimes.

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WhiskeySix

I know how frustrating it can be to have an unresponsive squad member, but read what you just typed again, and realize the kind of players TG draws the most. Many have a wife, kids, and job, which often leaves game-time for after the kids and/or wife are in bed. Excluding that group because of their [incredibly fortunate] situation is just not going to happen here.

The rules say you must be able to hear orders and you must follow orders.

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Superfast

You are more efficient with a mic, than without i agree. But RL sometimes doesn't allow you to do that. And the rules are clear and written like they are because of that experience. So using a mic is optional but preferred.

But also being new or mic-shy shouldn't exclude anyone. I remember when i first joined TG, without a mic. I must have played for like a month or so before i bought one and started using it.

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Ghost Dog

Before I recently moved, I stopped playing PR without a mic because it was simply too frustrating... if my GF went to bed, I just played another game.

The reason I love TG is because the majority uses a mic, yet I have no problem leading an infantry squad with 1 or 2 'micless' players, as long as they respond to my orders and do the best they can to communicate. Gahlas used to be a perfect example of this, but he probably left PR like Al said cause I haven't seen him in a while.

Austrooper 's excuse for not using a mic is the only one that counts for me though.

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squadexodus

I have a solution to all you guys that have lady friends that want to sleep when you want to game. Take a helmet, preferably football or ww2 vintage. Tape a pillow over it and game. When they wake up to beat you to death, you have protection

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Hehe .

Just give her a pair of these:



Worked for me .

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squadexodus

Ear sedatives?

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Tempus

Quick comment here. EVERYONE on the server must be able to hear VoIP. It is a server requirement. Not everyone must use it to talk, but they must hear you. If not, contact an admin so we can remove them.

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TheSkudDestroyer

The best players are those with tactical radio discipline anyway. Don't worry about it.

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Evo<^|SiNz|^>

That's completely unreasonable. Frequently my wife lays on the couch and reads while I play a game and I can't blab into VOIP without disturbing her. Should I quit playing a game because of it? Of course not. Also, myself and I'm sure a lot of other people can't just move the computer to another room because of a variety of circumstances (I won't get into my own reasons because it's trivial).

As long as you're not squad leading or commanding and you can hear others' comms, this shouldn't really be an issue. It could even be a boon for the squad, since a lack of radio discipline by squad members can greatly hinder things.

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Thyreus

I wouldn't blame anyone for kicking me if I didn't have a mic, but personally I don't view it as a necessity. It is effective to have one, but sometimes it also gets distracting with everyone blabbering on at the same time. On the other hand, it's very easy to miss those chat messages flying by in the left upper corner of the screen.

I know I'd personally probably be better at spotting enemies if I learned to type faster, because right now I always manage to screw up the verbal reporting with my poor Swedish accent and forgetting of words just as I need them, especially when I'm stressed.

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Elwenil

While this is true, I believe in getting the full experience. It's hard to immerse yourself in a game if you are constantly having to type on a keyboard, lol. Oh, and I'm not advocating any change here, just stating my personal opinion that may or may not be the same as other TG members.


Personally, I feel it is just as unreasonable to ask a SL or other squad members to have to decipher their text out of the usual in game spam and conversation going on in the text. Granted, it is a valid means of communication, but the very fact that the game itself constantly spams useless information along with conversations about who knows what between players means most players tent to ignore whatever is said there. In a lot of ways it is almost comparable to being in the heat of battle and have to stop while one of your squad members plays a game of charades to make himself understood. No, it's not impossible, but yes it is an inconvenience and can take up precious seconds that could mean the survival of your squad and the completion of your objectives or the whole squad getting obliterated by an AA gun that was spotted by the silent squad member and he couldn't type the message quick enough. Then again, maybe I just take my gaming more seriously than most of you.

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w.WAREHOUSE

If they were replaced by people with mics on the server, then I would say yes.

I don't think you guys should be getting angry for getting kicked for no mic's, that is a squad leader's decision. And since you can't SL effectively yourselves without a mic, you are pretty much at the mercy of the squads you are joining...regardless of how good I know some of you are without comms. I would continue to try and join VOIP squads, asking SL's if it is okay, and if they kick you, make a No-voip squad or try someone else's squad. Quitting to make a point wouldn't do much...I would miss some of you mutes, but the game would go on.

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