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Old 02-21-2008, 01:21 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Then again, maybe I just take my gaming more seriously than most of you.
Oh God, you're so right!

Nobody else here at TG takes PRM remotely seriously and no-one here in GMT Land would actually give up playing in Sunday's TG Password nights so that they didn't wake up the kids when they have school the next day.*






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Old 02-21-2008, 01:48 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: being kicked from squads for no voip WTF

No one takes PR seriously? I would have to disagree based on my squad mates and more people that I have played with on the TG server than I can conveniently count. And if I am going to pay $9 a month for it, I am going to take it seriously.
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:55 PM   #33 (permalink)
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No one takes PR seriously? I would have to disagree based on my squad mates and more people that I have played with on the TG server than I can conveniently count. And if I am going to pay $9 a month for it, I am going to take it seriously.
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Old 02-21-2008, 02:04 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: being kicked from squads for no voip WTF

Sorry, I misunderstood your post. That's what I get for trying to do 5 things at once.
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Old 02-21-2008, 04:26 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: being kicked from squads for no voip WTF

Multi tasking for the loss.
Another solution. Give your significant other sleeping pills/ horse sedatives. And wear a helmet
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:22 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Re: being kicked from squads for no voip WTF

Some points:

(1) If you don't have a mic and are considering getting one - DO IT! It will improve your game play/experience immensely. Def. worth it.

(2) Having a mic-less person in your squad can be seen as a further opportunity to work as a team. If you have a mic in a squad like that, keep an eye on the squad chat and "translate": bring pertinent things the mic-less one types to the squad's attention using VOIP (since not everyone is keeping an eye on the chat all the time). Also, stick together - then most things the mic-less guy comes across will be seen by someone with a mic who can relay them to the rest of squad by VOIP.

I recall a map where I was squad medic and had an SL with no mic. So I stuck near him and relayed his apparent/typed intentions to the rest by VOIP.

(3) (radio discipline) As others have said, some players with mics (a) don't listen/follow orders and/or (b) talk too much
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:51 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Also, if you have a wired 360 controller and a mic, you can rig that up too. Thats what i did
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Old 02-21-2008, 08:51 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Re: being kicked from squads for no voip WTF

OMG I cant believe how many people are such hard asses.

I would have liked to think that in some way people within the TG community constituted a certain level of friendship. I Guess for some I am mistaken.

I certainly appreciate the positive feedback some members have posted.

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I wouldn't say we are hard asses. TG is way more laid back now than it was in previous years. It's just that we also want the most from our gaming experience. Sure there is friendship, otherwise we would not have an open forum to discuss such issues, but there is a certain amount of professionalism in what we do. Yes, it is just a game, but when you choose to interact with other people, you can't just do anything you want or the game loses focus and chaos ensues. There has to be a standard to which people have to be held in order to preserve the experience for all who play. Fortunately for you and others like you, TG is not as strict on such matters and tries to make itself available to as many players as possible. Wow, the analogies I could dream up with that statement, lol. Anyway, The rule is to have VOIP activated so you can hear the SL's orders and you should probably communicate as best you can. But you will still have to deal with those SL's who are a little more strict than the TG average who want every player in their squad to be at their best and have full comms working. I pity anyone who joins a squad that I create, whenever I get comfortable with squad leading. I'm kidding, really. I'm not that much of a "hard ass", but I do expect a certain amount of seriousness and cooperation from those I play with. I may not say anything to a player about it, but then I may never choose to squad up with them again.
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Re: being kicked from squads for no voip WTF

I would like to say that I have seen all Three Sides of this Personally.

But before I start I just want to make sure that squadexodus knows that these things...



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Ear sedatives?
are not Seditives, they are Suppositories.


Seriously though, I used to game at my sisters house.. I didnt have a pot to pee in, or a window to throw it out of, and was sleeping on my sisters couch.. I had to get my gaming in late at night because of the fact that I was the Tick sleeping on her Barcalounger and there was a family of 5 that actually belonged to that house.. After waking her up a few times because of me getting exited and shouting expletives, I learned to boost my mic up to its most sensitive level, get that thing right up next to my mouth and talk very quietly.. It took a couple diffrent mics to find one that would work, but after a few failed attempts I found a system that worked.

Secondly now have my life back in order and live with a wonderful woman who dosent care If I game while she is in the room. She claims that she doesnt mind if I let the sound come through the speakers, but I draw my own line there and use the headphones, as well as using some discression and going to bed at 11:30 or so. Basicly.. Ive got it made..

Thirdly.. I would rather play with someone that I can communicate with than with somone I cant. If they are next to me and get knifed, I want them to say.. "LOOK OUT DUDE, ON YOUR LEFT".

Basicly I wish you guys with Mic Issues were as fortunate as me.
I would try to get together with each other and form a "Silent Bob Brigade" or something of that nature.
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OMG I cant believe how many people are such hard asses.

I would have liked to think that in some way people within the TG community constituted a certain level of friendship. I Guess for some I am mistaken.

I certainly appreciate the positive feedback some members have posted.

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Take into account that voip is actually mandatory on the TG server. Therefore any SL technicaly HAS to kick you afaik if he is following the rules strictly. Off course that is just theory. In practice this is allowed if you coopperate well. I'll take a silent cooperative member anytime over people like I had yesterday, where this "fatal" guy chattered on and on about what he thought I should do, about that my voice was too slow, and how he wanted an american SL". Just find another squad if ppl don't want you without voip, and if all else fails, make a sniper or an engi squad or something that can make you useful.
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Re: being kicked from squads for no voip WTF

If your SL it's your squad, so I don't see any problem with the SL kicking you for any reason what so ever
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I would try to get together with each other and form a "Silent Bob Brigade" or something of that nature.

Man think of how many of that squad you could knife in a row. I like the idea as long as they are on the other team.
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Without a mic, you have to put more effort in following orders quickly. You have todo one better then the rest of the squad, and be responsive to his orders in squad chat as much as possible.

Gahlas does this best, although he unfortunately left PR for lag, he made an artform out of this. Also great at this are emdek and sam hoy. Any of these players actually turn having no voip into an advantage, as they tend to function ust as well as the others, without ever digressing into voip spam, a pit I do tend to fall in.

Note that your squad cannot read what you type when you are dead!
Al's point shouldn't be minimized. Gahlas, Emdek, Sam Hoy...and who was that engineer * with the Shotty that so terrorized all of us...that never had a mic....

These guys were some of the best team players I've ever squadded up with. Better than many who HAD a mic.

I can see El's point though, --text reading for the SL, especially in .7, just adds an additional layer of possible confusion...

For me, as a SL, I'll make the extra effort. As long as the player can reply back in text quickly and without fail, I'm okay with it.


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Old 02-22-2008, 11:08 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Quick comment here. EVERYONE on the server must be able to hear VoIP. It is a server requirement. Not everyone must use it to talk, but they must hear you. If not, contact an admin so we can remove them.
BigGaayAl, there is a big difference between not having VoIP enabled and not having a mic/choosing not to use your mic.
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