PR Server Rules, Regulations, UCB info, Maplist, Everything You'll Need To Know - Page 5

**d1sp0sabl3H3r0** · 10-27-2008, 02:09 PM

The mains are always an issue, and now .8 has created a new wrinkle because of the change in maps like Qwai where the flag to be capped was moved away from the permanent spawn points. Good intentions, but we are forced to re-evaluate our rules and make more interpretations.

Anyway, please remember the rules regarding the main:

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5. Basecamping

Main bases: A main base is defined as a flag where the opponent has their only permanent spawn point.
UCB: The opponents main base which cannot be captured.

The rules regarding main bases/UCB are as follows:

Insurgents can attack enemy main at any time using whatever tactics they want as this is a real-life tactic. Remaining rules do not apply to insurgents only.
Main flag is completely off limits to enemy soldiers unless flag is in play. This includes spec ops and sapper squads. If the main is neutral, the attacking force does not have to withdraw and may stay to defend the flag.
Units firing out of the main onto enemy forces may receive return fire, otherwise you are not to fire into the enemy main base to spawn kill.
Destroying/sabotaging vehicles inside the main is prohibited. This includes but is not limited to placing mines or C4 onto vehicles or near them to prevent them from being used or destroying them.
Access directly out of the main may not be blocked or impeded by mines, c4, or other means.
Bridges and other means of departing the area around the main may be attacked and is not considered base camping.
Aircraft returning to their main airfield may be engaged until they've landed.

The enemy command post (CP) may not be destroyed any more, so there is no reason to attack the enemy main or attempt to sabotage the CP.

Firing out of the main automatically voids your protection from return fire, at least for the unit(s) firing. The idea is that no one should be near the main anyway until it is in play, but we realize that this is a silly fantasy and the reality of it is that there will always be someone who is the spec-ops superhero and will try to C4 something. Don't shoot them, just report them.

All of this main base business really boils down a difference in philosophies and ideals. Let's look at reality and take Kashan for instance. A 4km map with two airfields held by opposing forces. Riiiiigghhht. Don't think so. The main bases are really metaphors for the elements that are the rear, far away from the front lines, and provide reinforcements, etc. Much the same as a rally point is really a metaphor for a point of reinforcements and more troops, not just a pile of ruck sacks that magically spawn more soldiers.

So, with that thought, there is no reason or even a real way for troops at the front lines to impact those forces miles and miles away from the real conflict.

Just stay away from the mains unless and until they come into play and focus the fight elsewhere.

**WDT_Alpha_s9** · 10-27-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by d1sp0sabl3H3r0

Units firing out of the main onto enemy forces may receive return fire, otherwise you are not to fire into the enemy main base to spawn kill.

I thought this was changed to no return fire, even if you were engaged from the main. Maybe I misread it, or maybe it's changed again... but I guess it pays to read the rules often!

**d1sp0sabl3H3r0** · 10-27-2008, 02:47 PM

The rule is that way to prevent people from firing out of their main and then, when they take the inevitable return fire, complain about base rape. Fire out of the main and you have just lifted your veil of protection. Rule 5.3

**Namebot** · 10-27-2008, 11:37 PM

On some insurgent maps there are multiple places to spawn for insurgents that as far as I know are permanent. It appears from the rules that the "peacekeeping" forces should not fire into any of these areas. Correct?

**d1sp0sabl3H3r0** · 10-28-2008, 12:15 AM

You are correct - those spawn points are off limits for the US and Brit sides.

Riffraffselbow · 10-29-2008, 10:04 PM

"# Bridges and other means of departing the area around the main may be attacked and is not considered base camping."
Is a runway a means of departing a main? Is it disqualified because it's in the main and not surrounding the main?

**Waldo_II** · 10-29-2008, 10:14 PM

A runway can not be attacked until the enemy's main is cappable. In every map containing a runway, the runway is surrounded by either fences or Hesko barriers, making it part of the main.

Never attack the runway. Even if the flag is cappable, the aircraft will either still be airborne (no pilot is stupid enough to land on the runway when it is vulnerable), or you will be able to rape the aircraft before it takes off. Don't waste your ammo.

**d1sp0sabl3H3r0** · 10-30-2008, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Waldo_II

A runway can not be attacked until the enemy's main is cappable. In every map containing a runway, the runway is surrounded by either fences or Hesko barriers, making it part of the main.

Never attack the runway. Even if the flag is cappable, the aircraft will either still be airborne (no pilot is stupid enough to land on the runway when it is vulnerable), or you will be able to rape the aircraft before it takes off. Don't waste your ammo.

Correct

**d1sp0sabl3H3r0** · 11-23-2008, 11:18 AM

A question was raised regarding the mosque area on insurgent maps and if they are considered a "main base" and therefore protected by the no-baserape rules. The answer is yes.

There are permanent spawn points there.
In real-life, rules of engagement (ROE) prevent forces from firing on a mosque.

Therefore, firing on insurgents inside the mosque is considered baserape and will be punished by the admins.

Also, since the BluFor team wins insurgency by destroying caches, not kills, there is little to no point in camping these places. Sitting outside the mosque to camp for easy kills will also be dealt with by the admins.