Thread: Al Basrah and Op. Archer

Hey guys.
I remember talking to Disposable about this a while back, and I'd appreciate it if you guys could bear with me for just a bit. I have a few things to say about Basrah and Archer.
Archer and Basrah, as you all know, are insurgency maps, and they are notorious for crashes. The crashes are the reason why alot of servers don't play them.
I have recently been looking into it, doing some testing on my own and reading about other peoples' experiences, and have realized a few things about these crashes:

- This might be iffy, but I've read and even tested this out myself.... Basrah and Archer crash when they are repeated in rotation (i.e., Basrah -> Basrah or Archer -> Archer, etc. etc.) However, when they are not repeated in rotation (i.e. Basrah -> Kashan, Archer -> Fools etc. etc.), they do NOT crash. I tried this out myself, and can confirm crashes when they repeated, and no crashes when they didn't. However, I also experienced no crashes on occasion when they DID repeat, which leads me to a certain amount of skepticism.

-Secondly, Archer crashes more, and in different ways. Archer crashes ingame, usually (from what I've heard) after 20 minutes of gameplay. Basrah crashes when loading, or when the game has finished and in the 'debreifing' screen. I read from posts that the reason for Archer crashing is as follows:
Archer currently has too many static objects ingame. Though I'm not sure the number, there is a limit to how much "stuff' the engine can handle, and when that number is passed, a crash occurs. Archer has tons of destructable buidlings (hence, a large number of static objects for each piece of "rubble", and everytime someone lays down an ammo bag, field dressing, etc., the number increases. For this, the map commonly surpasses the number, and crashes. By the way, I read this from the maker of the map, so I believe this is the reason why this map crashes.

Personally, I think that Basrah and Archer would make for a great, great gaming experience on TG. The times I've played these maps, there were many immature, "unintelligent" people who 'tard rushed' amd had more of a VBF2 mentality. This really ruins the overall experience of this map. However, when the server is full of respectable, mature gamers who use tactics, teamwork, and intelligence, this map is amazing... Insurgent ambushes, Brit insertions and extrats, the whole shabang.

Its because of this that I was wondering if one day, perhaps during PW night or perhaps some other way, we test out including Basrah into the rotation. Make it *some other map* -> Basrah -> * yet another map*. By doing this, perhaps we could be able to play a complete game of Insurgency on this incredible map without experiencing the crash.
Just consider what I've wrote guys, and write back any opinons/thoughts.
Cheers, Cody